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VACList-Digest       Wednesday, May 1, 2002      Issue 290
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Re: Another electrical question
        2. Anyone able to specify what kind of glass to install in our 1958
18ft Traveller?
        3. Re: Refrig Door Repair
        4. YA old bowen WH question
        5. Aluminum Termination Cap
        6. Re: YA old bowen WH question
        7. Re: Aluminum Termination Cap
        8. '76 Airstream Polish Job
        9. Re: Aluminum Termination Cap
       10. Re: YA old bowen WH question
       11. 1957 Caravanner for sale!
       12. Thanks Refrig Door Repair
       13. Re: YA old bowen WH question




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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:48:29 -0400
From: Jerry Jarrell <jdjarrell@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Another electrical question

Thanks to all for the help. I think I have a handle on it now. Sure wish at
least "one"
of you were living next door for some Hands On Help!!!! :>)
Jerry

Jim Dunmyer wrote:

> Jerry,
>   It sounds like you have a "bulkhead connector" on your trailer.



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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:11:57 -0700
From: "William Henshall" <willy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Anyone able to specify what kind of glass to install in our 1958
18ft Traveller?

Hi everyone,

We have enjoyed reading this informational and entertaining list. Time to
jump in with a question..<grin>

We are replacing all the windows in our new project, a 1958 18ft Traveller.

Any recommendations as to the kind of glass to use?

We have ordered the necessary beading etc from Airstream Dreams...

Also, has anyone had any experience with mirror film?

We are thinking of fitting all windows with full mirrors...we have never
seen this done, but are sure someone has...

Best wishes

Will and Naomi Henshall



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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:16:58 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Refrig Door Repair

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 23:27:21 -0400, Hoyt wrote:

>Dear Chris:
>   Thanks for your help with my gasket problem. My refrig is the RM 77
>model. Taking off the original gasket is still a mystery. One guy said to
>take the four nylon hinge receptacles off the door and the aluminum band
>around the outside perimeter would just slide off releasing the gasket. I
>haven't had time to do that but I did take one off the door prior to this
>episode and nothing was revealed. I think I would rather have a gasket in
>hand which will obviously go on with double-sided tape before I take a razor
>to the original.
<<..>>
 O.K.- got my software back up-and went out to look at the RM77
door I have. There were apparently two types of gasket- a screw in,
and a pop in- the door I have has a pop in with a bead that will pull
out of the groove- no disassembly of the door required.
 The notes from the software say (sorry for the all caps):

YOU NEED TO CHECK FOR SCREW IN GASKET OR POP IN #2002626071
ON THIS SCREW IN GASKET, THERE WERE TWO TYPES DOMETIC MADE. IF THE
ORIGINAL GASKET MOUNTS TO A FLAT METAL PLATE,THIS GASKET WILL NOT WORK
BECAUSE IT WON'T FIT SNUG.THE FLAT METAL PLATE GASKET IS N/A
IF THE ORIGINAL GASKET MOUNTS TO A METAL PLATE THAT KIND OF HAS A HOOK
SHAPE ON THE TOP THIS GASKET WILL WORK.
TILL END OF THIS MONTH(OCTOBER) OR FIRST OF NEXT MONTH (NOVEMBER).
DATA PLATES MAY BE WRONG. SOME RM 76'S WERE TAGGED AS RM 75'S

-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:18:37 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: YA old bowen WH question

I swear I saw a refernce to a photo of the old Bowen water heater on
this list- but I cannot find it. I'm working on a '67 Avion- got the
water heater working, but it is missing the small access door- was
this a solid door?

-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:23:25 -0600
From: "InsideOut" <airstream@InsideOut-Design.net>
Subject: Aluminum Termination Cap


We are looking for a replacement of the aluminum termination cap for the 
dump valve, in our '64 GlobeTrotter. We have the original elbow for 
dumping, but are missing the blank cap for driving. None of the standard 
fittings we've tried fit at Camping World or the local RV Parts 
"junkyard" fit...anybody have a spare they would be willing to part 
with? Or any other suggestions?

Rob & Shari Davis
'64 GlobeTrotter "Maxwell"
WBCCI #1824



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Message Number: 6
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:37:49 US/Mountain
From: donhorn@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: Re: YA old bowen WH question

To see a photo of the outside cover for a 10-gallon Bowen heater on a '63
Avion, go to this page and click on the heater link:

  http://nomoss.com/donhorn/avion_sale/appl.html

The part of the cover that's removable is the flat part that's flush with
the 
outside skin. It has two spring-loaded twist catches at the bottom.  The
lower 
part of the surface mounted box (it's a mesh screen),  is attached to the
cover 
plate, and is therefore also removable.  The box basically acts as a flue.
The 
upper part of that box is attached to the skin and remains stationary.

This is a single example, and I believe it's as originally installed by
Avion, 
but I wouldn't necessarily assume that they all were done the same way.
Like 
Airstream, Avion had 2 assembly plants (in MI and CA), so there may have
been 
variations by location as well as over time.

Don 

> I swear I saw a refernce to a photo of the old Bowen water heater on
> this list- but I cannot find it. I'm working on a '67 Avion- got the
> water heater working, but it is missing the small access door- was
> this a solid door?
> 
> -- 
> Chris Bryant
> mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
> 
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Message Number: 7
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:09:24 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: Aluminum Termination Cap

At 11:23 05/01/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>We are looking for a replacement of the aluminum termination cap for the
>dump valve, in our '64 GlobeTrotter. We have the original elbow for
>dumping, but are missing the blank cap for driving. None of the standard
>fittings we've tried fit at Camping World or the local RV Parts "junkyard"
>fit...anybody have a spare they would be willing to part with? Or any
>other suggestions?
  . .

I just went through the process of replacing the dump valve on my '64
Ambassador.  What I found was great confusion as to what fits and what
doesn't.  It seems the original parts as supplied by Thetford no longer
exist. The good news is that Thetford still exists and has parts to change
the system to the newer type fittings.

The key problem I found was that the type and size fitting as originally
used has been changed slightly by a increase in diameter by approximately
3/8"  A new cap from Thetford does not fit the old style Thetford fittings.
It almost fits, but does not lock on or seal securely. InlandRV of Corona
California has the parts in stock, including a coupler adapter ring to
modify the old dump valve coupling to accept the new style Thetford
fittings. This means you will have to replace the elbow coupling as well as
it will not fit the new Thetford fittings.

In the case of my '64 Ambassador, I was forced to replace the original
(brass & plastic) Thetford dump valve due to the seal retaining ring for
the brass gate valve slide being deteriorated to the point it would no
longer hold the gasket.  I purchased a new Thetford dump valve from
InlandRV but could not get a new "Y" coupler for the grey water waste pipe.
I was forced to keep the original "Y"coupler which had the old style
Thetford coupler flange.  The solution was to saw off the old flange and
epoxy a new style Thetford coupler adapter ring (purchased with the valve
from InlandRV) onto the end of the original "Y"coupler.

Now the caveat to all this is, the Thetford fittings, new or old are not
compatable with the Valterra and other readily available fittings. However,
Valterra makes an adapter to go from the new style Thetford fittings to the
Valterra syle fittings which includes most currently readily available
fittings at Camping World and most RV supply houses. I chose to stay with
the Thetford fittings as they are a stronger, better designed fitting and
more in keeping with the Vintage Airstream concept. However, once new
Thetford fittings are installed, by purchasing a $9.00 Thetford to Valterra
adapter ring (made by Valterra), you can use either as you wish.


Mitch Hill - WA1YKN / AFA1HN
64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
WBCCI #21960



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Message Number: 8
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:33:53 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: '76 Airstream Polish Job


 Sorry to say things are on hold now. I went to my Dermetologist
and he has me all burned up in reality. I have black burned spots all over
my face chest back and arms. I also have 2 patches which are possible
skin cancer sites on my back. So am taking off from all hard work while I
learn if it's worth my while to polish the trailer, and get over all the
burned patches.

 I am still planning to tow the trailer up to Willow Creek
Campground in the Gila National Forest around June 1st. There I will take
a small patch of trailer skin and make sure 100% of the clearcoat is
removed. Should get that all done while living in an 8000 feet above sea
level forest valley with 4 rivers passing through. I have the Sea Breeze
Polish and Sealent which I will put on to protect the aluminum.
 

-- 
Yours Truly,

    - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.net  (505) 524-3303  -
                        http://www.zianet.com/k5di/



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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:53:48 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Aluminum Termination Cap


Rob, on a ' 64 model I would have thought it would be a Thetford part. =
Did the local RV place have those? Some don't since the industry =
standard in the Valterra.

Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: InsideOut=20
  To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
  Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 13:23
  Subject: [VAC] Aluminum Termination Cap


  We are looking for a replacement of the aluminum termination cap for =
the dump valve, in our '64 GlobeTrotter. We have the original elbow for =
dumping, but are missing the blank cap for driving. None of the standard =
fittings we've tried fit at Camping World or the local RV Parts =
"junkyard" fit...anybody have a spare they would be willing to part =
with? Or any other suggestions?

  Rob & Shari Davis
  '64 GlobeTrotter "Maxwell"
  WBCCI #1824




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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 17:13:20 -0500
From: Herb Spies <spies@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: YA old bowen WH question

look at http://www.nwflorida.net/gt00002.htm
There's a picture of the water heater door (1963 version).
RJ also has a picture of his 65 Caravel door  at
http://www.vintageairstream.com/myrtle_rest2.html

Chris Bryant wrote:

> I swear I saw a refernce to a photo of the old Bowen water heater on
> this list- but I cannot find it. I'm working on a '67 Avion- got the
> water heater working, but it is missing the small access door- was
> this a solid door?
>
> --
> Chris Bryant
> mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com
>
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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:03:56 -0700
From: "Dan Burke" <dan@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: 1957 Caravanner for sale!

Hello y'all, 

Just wanted to let you know I have another trailer for sale. I posted it
on Airstream dot net and Airstream Central today. Take a peek if your
interested.

Thanks and take care all!

Dan Burke 
AirstreamTrailers.com



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Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:07:06 -0400
From: Hoyt Oliver <hedgehog@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Thanks Refrig Door Repair

Thanks James Greene and Brad Norgaard for your suggestions on the parts and
solution to the rubber gasket problem. I appreciate the help and will give
it a try.
Hoyt Oliver
75 Land Yacht 


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Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:28:38 -0400
From: Chris Bryant <list@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: YA old bowen WH question

On Wed, 01 May 2002 12:18:37 -0400, I wrote:

>I swear I saw a refernce to a photo of the old Bowen water heater on
>this list- but I cannot find it.

 Many thanks for the on and off list replies- this one
apparently had a solid door, hinged in the middle, something that I
should be able to fabricate.
 I must say working on this trailer has been fun- other than a
couple of water leaks (caused by the copper lines freezing)- and
making a new pilot assembly for the water heater FWIW- I used a new
White Rodgers assembly- Suburban pn 161156- $15 retail, only neede the
pilot tube extended, and some slight grinding on the bracket to fit
perfectly), everything has worked- after sitting for several years.
 My big hope is to talk the owner in to keeping it as stock as
possible (she's fixing it up for someone to live in)- as it is still
very original.
 Hope I am able to.

-- 
Chris Bryant
mailto:bryantrv@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com


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