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VACList-Digest       Monday, April 22, 2002      Issue 281
  
Today's Topics:
  
        1. Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?
        2. Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?
        3. Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
        4. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
        5. Re: What a deal? !!
        6. Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?
        7. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
        8. Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?
        9. Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
       10. Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?
       11. Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
       12. Re: What a deal? !!
       13. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
       14. Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
       15. Re: Equal-i-zer Hitch
       16. Down the road...
       17. Looking for Beatrice Parts?
       18. Re: Equal-i-zer Hitch
       19. Hitch Adjustment
       20. Re: Down the road...
       21. Re: Down the road...
       22. Re: 
       23. Re: Equal-i-zer Hitch
       24. Re: Looking for Beatrice Parts?
       25. Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?
       26. School for Innovators Articles > > Rolf and Durwin: > > Here at	last is the email I promised to send you earlier outlining our > agreement
       27. Kelly Blue Book Travel Trailer Guide available
       28. Re: 
       29. Re: Sealant vs. Plasticoat
       30. Re: Sealant vs. Plasticoat
       31. Visit to Snug Harbor Ralley in CA
       32. two mount radio antenna
       33. Re: Bowen water heater
       34. Re: Down the road...
       35. Re: Walbernize for Non-Plasticoated Trailers
       36. Re: two mount radio antenna
       37. ClearCoat removal and polish
       38. Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover




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Message Number: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:30:29 -0700
From: Dennis Morgan <dmorgan@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?

I'm wondering if anyone has any experience, opinions, advice, etc. regarding
composting toilets and tankless water heater systems for airstream use? I've
done a little research and the possibility of having no black water tank to
deal with and instant hot water intrigues me. Any comments appreciated.
Thanks,
Dennis 


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Message Number: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:59:02 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?

Tankless water heaters seem practical, if gas fired. Electric means
large peak current beyond the minimum campsite.

I know of two composting toilets, the natural one is larger than my
Caravel. The electric fired toilet (incinolet) takes a fair amount of
115 volt power but works and is fairly compact. Takes a bit of special
training of visitors.

There should be discussion of both topics in past VAC posts in Tom
Patterson's archives.

Gerald J.
-- 
Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson. Reproduction by
permission only.


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Message Number: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 19:30:14 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover

Oh Happy Days,
    I was cleaning the stowage area near the reefer and I found one of the
cylinders and both of the handles.  So now all I need is one cylinder.

The stock fan motor that fit in this vent has two red wires.  The
aftermarket fan motor has a red and black wire in the picture.  I have to
figure out which of the red wires is supposed to take 12V and which is
ground.  Trying to find out if the old fan is still OK and don't want to
burn it out in the process.

Thanx,
Bob
66 Safari in Oceanside
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
To: <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover


> offlist
>
> Bob,
>
> You may wish to still purchase a set of Andy's vent operators as a
temporary
> solution until you are able to find a set of the originals. They are VERY
> hard to come by. I was able to find one salvageable one off an older
wrecked
> SOB. Ocassionally people replace their old hehr vents with a fantastic
fan,
> you may be able to buy the lifters off of them, but often they wish to
keep
> the lifters as spares for their other vents.
>
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 1:26 PM
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
>
>
> > Scott,
> >     I was curious why the casting on the handles were not the same shape
> as
> > the stock handles.  So my quest continues for one set of original LaDeu
> > openers.  I am going to order the replacement fan for the bathroom vent
> from
> > inlandrv.  They are performing a very valuable service.  And it would
not
> be
> > the first time that aftermarket parts sacrifice "something" to modern
> > economics.
> > Bob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:44 AM
> > Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> >
> >
> > > Bob, In all fairness, I need to warn you that the vent operators that
> Andy
> > > offers are not a exact duplicate of the LaDeu openers that you are
used
> > to.
> > > They require MANY more turns to get the vent open and then they do not
> > raise
> > > the vent as far as the originals. That said, they are the only
> alternative
> > I
> > > know of. You will want to replace them in pairs.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > 1960 Overlander
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:02 PM
> > > Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanx for the pointer.  I will be ordering a number of parts in the
> near
> > > > future.
> > > > Bob
> > > > Oceanside
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:32 AM
> > > > Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Bob. We have the vent operators that you need. You can see them on
> our
> > > web
> > > > > site,   inlandrv.com    Click on parts and then scroll to part
> number
> > > > 83792.
> > > > > Click on "view part" to see it.    Andy
> > > > >
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Message Number: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 20:13:08 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

I installed and lived with a small Paloma tankless (on demand) water heater
for three years on Maui.  I fitted it under the kitchen cabinet of my
Streamline trailer and vented it directly out the hull.  It worked
flawlessly delivering unlimited amounts of hot water.

Two drawbacks are that they make noise when in the heating mode and do
radiate heat out the front side even  when vented.  This can be problematic
in the tropics.  I may put one in my Safari if I can find a Paloma on the
mainland.  They are a bit rare here.  In Europe they are the standard.

Bob
66 Safari in Oceanside




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Message Number: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:38:00 -0600
From: gshippen <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: What a deal? !!

Bob, how about none?  Just sand and fill the plywood then use some verithane  or
enviroseal.  Throw in a rug or two and call it good! Good luck. GAS

My Airstream wrote:

> Terry Tyler wrote:
> > Had you ever considered borrowing an Airstream from a member who has
> > several? Or asking that member if you could buy one of his, work on it and
> > take it to rallies now and then - but leave it in his yard? What a deal?
> !!
> >
> > There might be someone around who would need your assistance occasionally.
> > And if you were a regular visitor to his yard and to his restoration
> > project, this could be a beneficial trade off as well as a bonus
> friendship.
> >
> > That's probably fantasy thinking.
>
> Dear Terry,
>     I don't know when you last visited San Diego but there are very strict
> rules about using a trailer for habitating and in many cases even storing a
> trailer on a residential lot.  I also don't have the money to buy Airstream
> #2.  I have just enough resources to keep Airstream #1 in good shape.
>
> I used to satisfy my craving for life on the road by outfitting my puller as
> a camper.  That all ended when I rolled and totalled my 66 Ford Camper
> Special in the Baja.  Today my "puller" is an 89 Toyota truck with a
> whopping 2.2 liter four banger.  Surprisingly this little truck is rated to
> pull my 3340 lb. Safari.  I would only attempt such a pull in an emergency.
>
> I am working these days to lighten the coach by removing the A/C and forced
> air heater, pulling the asbestos vinyl tile in favor of more contemporary
> flooring.  I think I can get it down to 3200 lbs.  What is the consensus for
> the toughest and lightest flooring?
>
> Thanx for the ideas and support
> Bob
> Oceanside
>
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Message Number: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:44:15 -0500
From: "gina terrell" <terrellgina@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?

hi
we have a composting toilet,it is not one we can travel with but am pleased 
with it. have you heard of the incerating ones? that may even better for 
travel.we are full timers.
gina


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>regarding
>composting toilets and tankless water heater systems for airstream use? 
>I've
>done a little research and the possibility of having no black water tank to
>deal with and instant hot water intrigues me. Any comments appreciated.
>Thanks,
>Dennis
>
>
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Message Number: 7
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:22:35 -0400
From: "tmeeker" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

Hey Bob,

Lots of links here for your new water heater.  Good idea!

Tom

http://www.palomawaterheaters.com/products.html
http://www.globaltownewarehouse.com/HomeProducts/paloma.htm
http://www.backwoodssolar.com/Catalogpages2/bookvid2.htm
PALOMA INSTANT WATER HEATER factory videotape
Factory reps promoting the Paloma tankless instant water heater.
Installation and maintenance are shown. Full credit $10 back on purchase of
Paloma water heater.
EV-PALOMA:   factory video:  $15
http://www.notanks.com/catalog/catalog.html
http://www.mcnopoly.com/mcnopoly/mcshop/cashback/cashHomeGarden.asp
http://www.tanklesswaterheaters.com/palomaph6.html
http://www.galacticsalvage.com/paloma.html
http://store.yahoo.com/lowenergysystems/palomaph6.html
http://www.electricwaterheaters.com/paloma/paloma.htm
http://www.online-shopette.com/paloma_ph12m_tankless_water_heater.htm

From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Tankless Water Heaters?


> I installed and lived with a small Paloma tankless (on demand) water
heater
> for three years on Maui. >
..........................  I may put one in my Safari if I can find a
Paloma on the
> mainland.  They are a bit rare here.  In Europe they are the standard.
>
> Bob
> 66 Safari in Oceanside





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Message Number: 8
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:24:09 -0400
From: "tmeeker" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?

Would that be the same as incinerating toilets?

Tom

From: "gina terrell" <terrellgina@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAC] Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?


> hi
> we have a composting toilet,it is not one we can travel with but am
pleased
> with it. have you heard of the incerating ones? that may even better for
> travel.we are full timers.
> gina





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Message Number: 9
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:27:04 -0400
From: "tmeeker" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover

I have to
> figure out which of the red wires is supposed to take 12V and which is
> ground.  Trying to find out if the old fan is still OK and don't want to
> burn it out in the process.
> Bob
> 66 Safari in Oceanside

Bob,

If this is a DC motor you are talking about it will run one way with the
'correct' red wire hooked up and it will run "backwards" hooked up to the
'wrong' red wire.

Where is this fan supposed to go anyway?  Behind the reefer?

Tom





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Message Number: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:34:01 -0400
From: "tmeeker" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?

Dennis,

I don't know what year Airstream began installing gray water holding tanks
but I do know that my 1969 Int Ambassador doesn't have one either.

Not having to deal with black water would be nice because you wouldn't have
to move the trailer or have a 'blue boy' tank if the site didn't have sewer
line hookup.

But, what do you do with the gray water in this case of no sewer line
hookup?

I have been in state parks in GA and SC where they had dry wells and you
could camp next to them and let the gray water go out the hose.  You'd still
have to solve the black water tank issue though if you had extended stays.

Do you or anyone else have any idea *when* Airstream began installing the
gray water holding tank?

If you have one of these trailers and the original or a copy of the manual
that came with it you will find a perfect description and drawing showing
you how to dig a "gopher hole" for the gray water and possibly even the
black water.  Those were the days! ;)

Tom

From: "Dennis Morgan" <dmorgan@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAC] Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?


> I'm wondering if anyone has any experience, opinions, advice, etc.
regarding
> composting toilets and tankless water heater systems for airstream use?
I've
> done a little research and the possibility of having no black water tank
to
> deal with and instant hot water intrigues me. Any comments appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dennis





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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:18:51 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover

Thanks for the tip.  This fan fits in the bathroom HEHR vent.
Bob
66 Safari in Oceanside, CA

> If this is a DC motor you are talking about it will run one way with the
> 'correct' red wire hooked up and it will run "backwards" hooked up to the
> 'wrong' red wire.  Where is this fan supposed to go anyway?  
> Tom




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Message Number: 12
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:30:13 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: What a deal? !!

I asked:  What is the consensus for
> > the toughest and lightest flooring?

You wrote:

> Bob, how about none?  Just sand and fill the plywood then use some
verithane  or
> enviroseal.  Throw in a rug or two and call it good! Good luck. GAS

Go GAS!  We think alike .  .  . less is more.
Bob
66 Safari in Oceanside



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Message Number: 13
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:31:32 -0400
From: William Jacobs <bjacobs1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

Hi all,
I remember one in an old SOB we had in the '60's.  It roared like an
airplane and 6 shower used a tank of LP.  You never ran out of hot
water.

bill
25 ft Trade Wind in WV
> 
> Two drawbacks are that they make noise


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Message Number: 14
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:40:47 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Tankless Water Heaters?

Great find Tom!  I think I'm going to get the small Paloma and install it
under the galley where the old Suburban heater used to be.  That spot is
already vented.
Bob
66 Safari in Oceanside

----- Original Message -----
From: "tmeeker" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 9:22 PM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Tankless Water Heaters?


> Hey Bob,
>
> Lots of links here for your new water heater.  Good idea!
>
> Tom
>
> http://www.palomawaterheaters.com/products.html
> http://www.globaltownewarehouse.com/HomeProducts/paloma.htm
> http://www.backwoodssolar.com/Catalogpages2/bookvid2.htm
> PALOMA INSTANT WATER HEATER factory videotape
> Factory reps promoting the Paloma tankless instant water heater.
> Installation and maintenance are shown. Full credit $10 back on purchase
of
> Paloma water heater.
> EV-PALOMA:   factory video:  $15
> http://www.notanks.com/catalog/catalog.html
> http://www.mcnopoly.com/mcnopoly/mcshop/cashback/cashHomeGarden.asp
> http://www.tanklesswaterheaters.com/palomaph6.html
> http://www.galacticsalvage.com/paloma.html
> http://store.yahoo.com/lowenergysystems/palomaph6.html
> http://www.electricwaterheaters.com/paloma/paloma.htm
> http://www.online-shopette.com/paloma_ph12m_tankless_water_heater.htm
>
> From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] Re: Tankless Water Heaters?
>
>
> > I installed and lived with a small Paloma tankless (on demand) water
> heater
> > for three years on Maui. >
> ..........................  I may put one in my Safari if I can find a
> Paloma on the
> > mainland.  They are a bit rare here.  In Europe they are the standard.
> >
> > Bob
> > 66 Safari in Oceanside
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 22:55:00 -0700
From: "T. Byrd" <tbyrd@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Equal-i-zer Hitch

Greetings,

I hadn't seen the Equal-i-zer web site, so thanks for the URL Chris.
They have a very interesting design compared to the other hitch
manufacturers. After selling the Hensley, I've been struggling with the
idea of attaching the typical friction sway control to my A frame. I'd
rather not have to bolt that dumb thing on to my trailer. From what I've
read, the Reese dual cam system is recommended for trailers with 1000
lb. tongue weight, and our Overlander is considerably lighter than that.
I towed her down to a local Equal-i-zer dealer, had the tongue weighed
with full propane and water tanks, filled the front half with every tool
I own, and all of our building materials, and she came in at 550 lb.
tongue weight. I purchased the Equal-i-zer with 600 lb. springs, had it
installed with a 12" deep drop shank, and had a new pair of safety
chains welded on. The grand total, with labor and 8.1% sales tax, was
about $650. We didn't have to tow far to get back home, but it felt MUCH
different than the little Reese shank and ball we used to tow it down
there. It's considerably more solid now, and I can't wait to get her out
on the highway and see how the rig performs. We'll be making our maiden
voyage in a couple of days, and after three long, hard months of
restoration work it'll be nice to be on the road.

Thanks for the review Charlie, I really appreciate your input. You've
helped me to make a decision I've been struggling with for a while.

--
Ted Byrd
1958 Overlander

Charlie/Betty Burke wrote:
> 
> Ted,
> 
> Yes, by all means I do recommend the Equal-i-zer hitch. As your local dealer
> pointed out the anti-sway features are designed in to the hitch. I have towed
> since 1970 with a variety of hitches including Bock, Eaz Lift, Reese, Hensley
> and now the Equal-i-zer. I am comfortable that it is as good as any of them.
> Equal-i-zer offers hitches from 600 lb to 1200 lb ratings (hitch weight).
> A stable towing setup should reduce the learning curve and rapidly increase the
> comfort level of towing. I also consider simplicity of hookup and to a lesser
> degree cost to be factors in a hitch choice.
> A fulltimer should look to the premium end of the scale while an occasional
> user that can get comparable performance at a better price should consider it.
> Equal-i-zer as well as any hitch manufacturer offers "deep drop" shanks to
> bring their hitch down to the right ball height.
> The towing performance was/is very stable. I towed with a 2002 GMC 2500HD with
> 8.1Liter/Allison drive train. Our coach is a 22' Argosy with a wet weight of
> around 4700lbs. The trip was from Boise, ID to Astoria, OR and then over the
> next 7 days down to Newport, OR along Hwy. 101 and finally back to Boise. The
> beginning and end were Interstate runs mostly at 70 MPH on cruise control. The
> time on Hwy. 101 was with and without the coach on mostly two lane with lots of
> hills and curves. The trip out had a bonus snow storm for 50 miles while
> running through NE Oregon. Any trip in the Columbia gouge on I84 includes lots
> of changeable strong winds and heavy truck traffic. At no time was I pushed,
> pulled, shoved or nudged. while towing. Many folks consider a run in the gouge
> a white knuckle special. With the Equal-i-zer this was simply not the case.
> Hope this answers your questions.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> PS. Not to suggest anything, but if the thought crosses a mind I still work at
> my dealership and I paid for the hitch.


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Message Number: 16
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:36:50 -0700
From: "T. Byrd" <tbyrd@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Down the road...

Greetings everyone,

After working 10-16 hours per day, 7 days a week, every single week
since the end of January, and spending several thousand scarce dollars,
our poor old Overlander is FINALLY road ready. I'd like to thank
everyone for being here, providing help, advice, and moral support. It's
been a long haul, and it wouldn't have happened without you folks. We'll
soon be taking the WBCCI up on their free one year membership, joining
the VAC, and I look forward to meeting up with fellow vintage owners at
some of the rallies. I'll have beer chilling for you in the fridge. ;)

--
Ted Byrd
1958 Overlander


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Message Number: 17
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 01:06:48 -0700
From: "T. Byrd" <tbyrd@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Looking for Beatrice Parts?

Greetings Beatrice Owners!

One of the local RV dealers here, upon hearing that we were restoring an
Airstream, offered us their entire Airstream parts inventory. They were
tired of storing them, didn't have anyone to purchase them, and they
made me a great offer on them. Unfortunately for us, but great for you,
the vast majority of the parts are for 70's vintage trailers. In order
to recoup a very small portion of the money we've spent restoring our
'58, I'm putting them up for sale. I honestly don't know what many of
the parts are, so if you're looking for some obscure part, and you can
provide a picture of it, or at least a good description, I'll try to
match it up with something I have. Many of the parts have Airstream part
numbers on them, so if you have a part number, that may help too. The
parts that I do recognize are:

Original 1975 Owner's Manual in good, never used condition.
Original 1979 Owner's Manual in good, never used condition.
Left and right front curved windows, double pane, smoke tint.
8" x 30" vista view window, double pane, smoke tint.
9" x 32" vista view window, double pane, reflective tint.
8" x 30" vista view window, single pane, clear, flat.
9" x 20" vista view window, single pane, clear, flat.
Large roll of International adhesive banding for exterior.
Large roll of other, oddly patterned, adhesive banding.
New water pressure regulator.
New Moen shower faucet with chromed plate, and handle.
Tons of white and brown plastic latches, caps, and other doo-dads.
Two pair of tambor door guides (brown).
One pair of tambor door guides (white).
One pair of aluminum arms for door step.
A thermostat.
Tons of plastic switches, some labeled, others plain.
Various gauges, probably holding tank/battery levels, etc.
Tambor door material.
Assorted pins, clips, bolts, arms, things I just don't recognize.

I'm probably forgetting a lot of stuff, so if you need a part for your
late 60's, 70's, and maybe even 80's Airstream, let me know off-list
(mailto:tbyrd@xxxxxxxxxx.com), and I'll see if I have what you're looking
for. I will charge a reasonable price for these parts, and in addition
you pay all shipping and handling costs. The windows are very heavy, and
they'll have to be crated. I don't want to go to the trouble of putting
these things on eBay and waiting seven days for an auction to end, I
want to get rid of them NOW. I accept PayPal, and credit cards are the
preferred method of payment so I don't have to wait for checks to arrive
in the mail. It's time to hit the road, so let me know soon if you're
interested.

--
Ted Byrd
1958 Overlander


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Message Number: 18
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 07:49:13 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <kallen@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.il.us>
Subject: Re: Equal-i-zer Hitch

Greetings Ted!

>From what I've
> read, the Reese dual cam system is recommended for trailers with 1000
> lb. tongue weight, and our Overlander is considerably lighter than that.
> I towed her down to a local Equal-i-zer dealer, had the tongue weighed
> with full propane and water tanks, filled the front half with every tool
> I own, and all of our building materials, and she came in at 550 lb.
> tongue weight.

While I am not aware of the precise factory recommendations for the Reese
Dual Cam Sway Control system, I can verify that it is effective with an
Overlander - - in my case, a 1964 Overlander International.  My hitch weight
is just a bit higher than yours at 600 lbs.  I have towed my rig over 30,000
miles with this setup, and have always felt absolutely secure and confident.
When I purchased my Dual Cam Sway Control, the dealer indicated that it
wasn't particularly effective with trailers below 4,000 pounds wet weight.
High winds, cross-winds, nor rain seem to adversely effect its operation.
After struggling with friction sway controls on my Nomad, there was no
question in my mind that I would have a Reese Dual Cam Sway Control on my
Airstream.  The one thing that I have learned with this setup is that proper
hitch setup is critical to satisfaction.

Kevin Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban




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Message Number: 19
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:15:27 -0400
From: "David W. Lowrey" <dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Hitch Adjustment

At 07:49 AM 4/22/2002 -0500, Kevin Allen wrote:

>The one thing that I have learned with this setup is that proper
>hitch setup is critical to satisfaction.

I second this!

When I bought my Airstream, I had to buy the Reese hitch and sway control 
before I had the trailer, so I could get it home.

I did my best "eyeballing" the setup when I picked the trailer up, but it 
was raining and I really didnt do a thorough job.

I then took it back to the trailer place that I bought the hitch/sway 
control from, and they adjusted it properly. They have a level cement pad 
that they pull the trailer and truck on to in order to make the adjustments 
properly. They measured the height of the truck's wheel wells from the 
ground before and after adjusting. It took 3 or 4 tries before they got the 
right adjustments.

I noticed a definite difference after that. Absolutely no sway or any other 
issues, and this is with a 31' trailer!

If you have a Reese dual cam sway control, and you havnt had it 
professionally adjusted, I strongly suggest you do so. It will be worth the 
time, I am sure.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
Dave & Ann Lowrey - dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com

WBCCI: 5074

1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio




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Message Number: 20
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:26:28 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Down the road...

Ted ,
  You deserve every mile .
Via con Dios, brillan en el Sol ,
Chris

"T. Byrd" wrote:

> Greetings everyone,
>
> After working 10-16 hours per day, 7 days a week, every single week
> since the end of January, and spending several thousand scarce dollars,
> our poor old Overlander is FINALLY road ready. I'd like to thank
> everyone for being here, providing help, advice, and moral support. It's
> been a long haul, and it wouldn't have happened without you folks. We'll
> soon be taking the WBCCI up on their free one year membership, joining
> the VAC, and I look forward to meeting up with fellow vintage owners at
> some of the rallies. I'll have beer chilling for you in the fridge. ;)
>
> --
> Ted Byrd
> 1958 Overlander
>
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Message Number: 21
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:46:35 -0400
From: Jerry Jarrell <jdjarrell@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Down the road...

Ted, have you posted any pics of your unit. Would like to see some as I have
a "57" Overlander. Would like to compare TTs.
Jerry

T Byrd wrote:

> Greetings everyone,
>
> After working 10-16 hours per day, 7 days a week, every single week
> since the end of January, and spending several thousand scarce dollars,
> our poor old Overlander is FINALLY road ready.



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Message Number: 22
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:16:07 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: 

Bob:

Sorry to hear about your Camper special. I remember when you bought it a
while back, and how happy you were with it. You came out of the accident OK,
I hope?

I hear cork is light for the floors, tho expensive.

I suspect the problem pulling with your Toyota will be getting the thing
rolling from a stop without cooking the clutch, and even that won't be a
problem on the level, if you're carefull. Hopefully you've got a pretty low
first gear. The toyota 2.2 liter engine is a VERY rugged mill with plenty of
pull, and was used on the Toyota motor home chassis for years. I've talked
to owners of those and they say that with the low axle ratios those rigs
came with, they are able to pull hills right along side Ford 460 chassis
motorhomes. And I know for a fact those toyota chassis were OVER the factory
GVR dry by the time Winnebago built the house on them. So, yes, with careful
use of the clutch and idling through stopsigns on hills in first, you'll
probably do better than you expect. I've towed trailers with underpowered,
stick-shift cars for years and never replaced a clutch. Just keep the revs
as low as possible as you clutch out--just above idle, whenever you can--and
get the starting torque you need by using more throttle, not higher revs. If
you have to, use a rear wheel as a clutch by pulling one rear tire onto the
gravel when you have to stop on a hill, then dumping the clutch and spinning
that wheel to get going, rather than dragging the clutch. That won't win you
style points, but tires are cheap compared to clutches. Use wheel flaps so
you don't spray your coach with gravel.

Good luck, Bob. You're an inspiration to many of us. Hope you don't hesitate
to take your rig on the road.

Dan
75 Argosy 26
Des Moines

> From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:01:57 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] 
> 
> That all ended when I rolled and totalled my 66 Ford Camper
> Special in the Baja. 



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Message Number: 23
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:30:28 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Equal-i-zer Hitch

Ted. A dual cam Reese sway control works with any tongue weight above about 
300 pounds. The torsion bar rating is more of the question. Most owners "over 
hitch" rendering the sway control somewhat less effective.  Andy


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Message Number: 24
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:34:28 EDT
From: Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: Looking for Beatrice Parts?

Ted. Please call me at 800-8777311. I would be interested in buying most of 
what you have, if not all.   Andy 


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Message Number: 25
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:37:24 -0500
From: "gina terrell" <terrellgina@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?

sorry I didn't run spell check on a hurried reply
gina


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>Would that be the same as incinerating toilets?
>
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>Subject: [VAC] Re: Composting Toilets and Tankless Water Heaters?
>
>
> > hi
> > we have a composting toilet,it is not one we can travel with but am
>pleased
> > with it. have you heard of the incerating ones? that may even better for
> > travel.we are full timers.
> > gina
>
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Message Number: 26
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:04:30 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: School for Innovators Articles > > Rolf and Durwin: > > Here at	last is the email I promised to send you earlier outlining our > agreement

Thanks again, Charlie, for clarifying further how this setup works. It
sounds like the best setup for the money, and a worthy upgrade if I find
towing with my old eaz-lift too twitchy for my liking. At a fifth the price
of a Hensley, and with an easier hookup, the equal-i-zer looks like a good
choice--especially for a passenger car, for which a pull-rite is not
available.

Dan
75 Argosy 26


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> Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:01:57 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAC] 
> 
> Re: Equal-i-zer Hitch



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Message Number: 27
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:25:21 -0700
From: "C. Hale" <chale@xxxxxxxxxx.ca>
Subject: Kelly Blue Book Travel Trailer Guide available

Hi All,
Last Fall, Jack listed some blue books for requests and I got one of them.
I've enjoyed looking at it.  Now I'd like to pass it on to someone else.
It's April -September 2001 and includes an Airstream section.

If you want it, email me your mailing address and I'll send it on to you.
Cindy




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Message Number: 28
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:26:25 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: 

Hey Dan,
    I will look into the cork floor.  After all I don't have that much
square footage.  I assume cork insulates pretty well so I can walk barefoot
on a chilly Oceanside night.

The crashing of my 66 Ford Camper Special was the result of my momentary
innatention while driving through the badlands north of Guerrera Negro.  It
was a double spiralling rollover and at the last minute I dove out the
drivers window.  Got half way out when the roof of the cab collapsed,
collaring me in the window.  My little puppy was trapped inside but unhurt.
After what seemed like an eternity (but was probably 10 minutes) a Canadian
RVer who had seen the accident, came back to render aid.  Within minutes
there was a dozen or more tourists picking up my stuff from the desert floor
and bagging it for transport to the nearest hotel in El Rosario. (50miles
north).

I would like to point out that the hurricane of last fall in the Baja has
caused many washouts along Hwy 1.   Those planning a vacation down there
should be especially cautious.

On the bright side, my little Toyota PU gets almost 30mpg.  It is a very
strong little truck with a good reputation for hauling.  I don't expect to
pull the Airstream in the near future but your advice about the clutch is
very much appreciated.  I will probably also beef up the rear suspension so
I can take any heavy things out of the Airstream and put them in the truck
bed for optimum weight distribution.
Bob
66 Safari in Oceanside, CA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Weeks" <theprofileco@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:16 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re:


> Bob:
>
> Sorry to hear about your Camper special. I remember when you bought it a
> while back, and how happy you were with it. You came out of the accident
OK,
> I hope?
>
> I hear cork is light for the floors, tho expensive.
>
> I suspect the problem pulling with your Toyota will be getting the thing
> rolling from a stop without cooking the clutch, and even that won't be a
> problem on the level, if you're carefull. Hopefully you've got a pretty
low
> first gear. The toyota 2.2 liter engine is a VERY rugged mill with plenty
of
> pull, and was used on the Toyota motor home chassis for years. I've talked
> to owners of those and they say that with the low axle ratios those rigs
> came with, they are able to pull hills right along side Ford 460 chassis
> motorhomes. And I know for a fact those toyota chassis were OVER the
factory
> GVR dry by the time Winnebago built the house on them. So, yes, with
careful
> use of the clutch and idling through stopsigns on hills in first, you'll
> probably do better than you expect. I've towed trailers with underpowered,
> stick-shift cars for years and never replaced a clutch. Just keep the revs
> as low as possible as you clutch out--just above idle, whenever you
can--and
> get the starting torque you need by using more throttle, not higher revs.
If
> you have to, use a rear wheel as a clutch by pulling one rear tire onto
the
> gravel when you have to stop on a hill, then dumping the clutch and
spinning
> that wheel to get going, rather than dragging the clutch. That won't win
you
> style points, but tires are cheap compared to clutches. Use wheel flaps so
> you don't spray your coach with gravel.
>
> Good luck, Bob. You're an inspiration to many of us. Hope you don't
hesitate
> to take your rig on the road.
>
> Dan
> 75 Argosy 26
> Des Moines
>
> > From: VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Reply-To: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> > Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:01:57 -0700
> > To: Multiple recipients of VACList <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Subject: [VAC]
> >
> > That all ended when I rolled and totalled my 66 Ford Camper
> > Special in the Baja.
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 29
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:32:38 -0400
From: Steve Hingtgen <steve@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sealant vs. Plasticoat

Beth,

On Saturday I had a nice long phone conversation with Dick McIntyre.  Dick invented the Airstream plasticoat back in the late 1950s.  You should know that there are several places that will still apply it.  Airstream's factory now also re-plasticoats, and
When you talk about "sealant" you are not talking about plasticoat.  Sealants are either wax or polymer and they are used to coat trailers that are not plasticoated.  They retard the re-oxidation after polishing.   A high quality sealant will result in on
Walbernize is a type of wax that has been used on Airstream plasticoats since nearly the beginning of time.  Dick recommends it be applied two times a year or more if you want.  It was first used by Airstream when they were transporting trailers.  They ap
If you are interested in more details, please contact me off-list.

Steve
http://www.vintagerv.com

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:01:57 -0700, VACList wrote:
>From: Beth Browning <Beth@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
>Subject: Advice Please on Sealant after Polish
>
>Just wanted to ask everyone what their experience is with "post
>-polish sealer" vs. using wax alone to maintain the shine.
>
>We are in the process of renovating our 1970 31 ft. Sovereign with
>the help of Oasis RV a couple of hours away in Tuscon.  Exterior
>polishing was too daunting for us novice/amateurs to take on
>ourselves, so we have hired these nice folks at Oasis to shine her
>up. I hope we can maintain the shiny finish once they do the first
>major job.
>
>Oasis recommends NOT applying a sealant because of peeling problems
>after the polishing job but rather using a Carnauba wax to maintain
>the finish by waxing about 4 times per year. They are very
>knowledgeable with over 28 yrs.
>Airstream experience and are great to work with.




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Message Number: 30
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:52:04 -0400
From: "David W. Lowrey" <dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Sealant vs. Plasticoat

At 12:32 PM 4/22/2002 -0400, Steve Hingtgen wrote:


>Walbernize is a type of wax that has been used on Airstream plasticoats 
>since nearly the beginning of time.  Dick recommends it be applied two 
>times a year or more if you want.  It was first used by Airstream when 
>they were transporting trailers.  They applied it to the front of the 
>trailer so that when bugs and dirt got attached to the trailer in transit, 
>they could easily clean the coach when it arrived at the dealer lot or 
>customer's house.  Walbernize helps keep the plasticote clean of things 
>that will damage it.

I assume that it's OK to Walbernize a non-plasticoated trailer?


__________________________________________________________________________
  Dave Lowrey             | E-Mail:     dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
                          | mailto:dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Trying hard to recreate what's never been created...




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Message Number: 31
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:05:46 -0700
From: "Tim  Shephard" <tim@telecom-pros.com>
Subject: Visit to Snug Harbor Ralley in CA

I took my family to visit the ralley at Snug Harbor last Saturday.

I just wanted to comment on how nice everyone was and how organized the open
house was.

We enjoyed ourselves.  We even brought a picnic lunch and all had a good
time looking at the very nice trailers.

I just wished I had seen these before I started working on mine last year.
Even if I ever finish I am afraid I will have to keep my door shut at such
an event because it does not compare to the ones I seen.

Thanks for everyones hospitalty.

-Tim




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Message Number: 32
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:40:38 -0400
From: Jerry Jarrell <jdjarrell@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: two mount radio antenna

Hey Brad,
    I called Auto Safety House in Phoenix and talked to Ephrim in the parts
Dept. He said they put all those antennas on a "sale" table last month and sold
all of them!!! I appreciate you notifying us anyway. If you hear of any other
place let us know.
Jerry
WBCCI & VAC
57 Overlander





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Message Number: 33
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:01:08 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Bowen water heater


Whit, I have no idea!

I have taken the liberty to post this to the VACList. Perhaps someone =
more familiar with plumbing can contact you directly with some ideas. =
List members, Whit can be reached at: wwyatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net . Thank You!

Scott
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Whitlow Wyatt=20
  To: Scott Scheuermann=20
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:53 AM
  Subject: Bowen water heater


  Hi Scott,
  I am not able to get water through my hot water spigots.  I unhooked =
the cold and hot water connections at my water heater.  I have pressure =
coming in the cold side, but not out the hot side.  I do not see any =
lime build up at the connections.  I am not able to get the drain valve =
cap off the bottom of the tank.  Do you think I can blow air pressure =
through the cold water side to release the blockage?
  The trailer is a 1965 Caravel.
  Thanks,
  Whit



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Message Number: 34
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:56:18 -0700
From: "T. Byrd" <tbyrd@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Down the road...

Jerry Jarrell wrote:
> 
> Ted, have you posted any pics of your unit. Would like to see some as I have
> a "57" Overlander. Would like to compare TTs.

Hi Jerry,

I haven't yet, but we are planning on it, now that we have some time to
think about something other than working on the trailer. I'd like to put
up several how-to's, some plans and ideas that we've come up with, and a
set of pics of the interior and exterior. I'll let you know.

--
Ted Byrd
1958 Overlander


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Message Number: 35
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:06:32 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <kallen@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.il.us>
Subject: Re: Walbernize for Non-Plasticoated Trailers

Greetings Dave!

> I assume that it's OK to Walbernize a non-plasticoated trailer?
>

Yes, it is an approved practice.  There is (or at least was) a special
formulation of Walbernize for non-plasticoated trailers.  I used that prior
to having my '64 Overlander polished and Plasticoated at P & S Trailer
Service in Helena, OH.  The last time I looked at the shelf in my regular
Airstream dealer's accessory department, they still had some of the original
formula Walbernize for non-plasticoated trailers.

Kevin Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban



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Message Number: 36
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:27:57 -0700
From: "Brad Norgaard" <canerods@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: two mount radio antenna

Jerry,
I was there last Friday and looked at one still in the plastic bag. Computer
showed an inventory of 16. Don't know what's up. Call and speak to Tim at
the Parts Counter. He was the guy who showed me the one I looked at.

Brad

on 4/22/02 10:40 AM, Jerry Jarrell at jdjarrell@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:

> Hey Brad,
> I called Auto Safety House in Phoenix and talked to Ephrim in the parts
> Dept. He said they put all those antennas on a "sale" table last month and
> sold
> all of them!!! I appreciate you notifying us anyway. If you hear of any other
> place let us know.
> Jerry
> WBCCI & VAC
> 57 Overlander
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Message Number: 37
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:14:06 -0600 (MDT)
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: ClearCoat removal and polish

	Well I thought I had all the Clearcoat of my 76 23' baby, but 
there are some small spots left and they must be removed with another 
application of Airplane paint remover.

	This afternoon I decided to at least try my polisher for the first 
time and see what the problems are. They are many. Didn't get the pad on 
right the first time. Then fixed that and turned it on in a large pail of 
water and got a bath! Dried out the pad holding it so it didn't get me.

	My door is free of Clearcoat so I tried my Rolite Regular polish 
applied with a small sponge. This worked fine and I polished away and got 
a lot of black slim all over the area I was working in. 

	Tried a terricloth rag and water. Didn't touch it. Tried viniger: 
didn't touch it. Tried Windex: A little came off but not much. In the 
store room I found a quart of Lacquer Thinner. Brought that out and put 
some on the rag after wrining out the water. Wiped the black stuff and 
with no effort at all, it came off clean! Washed the rag out in water and 
it is pretty good again.

	Need to get a good liquid to clean up my pads. Sure Lacquer 
Thinner will work but maybe soap will work too. Need to experiment much 
more. If you recall something like the name of a cleaner please pass it 
along.

-- 
Yours Truly,

  	 - Karl F. Larsen, k5di@xxxxxxxxxx.net  (505) 524-3303  -
                        http://www.zianet.com/k5di/



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Message Number: 38
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:14:19 -0400
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover

With a DC motor, just hook it up.  If it goes the wrong way, reverse the
connections.  Motors are essentially polarity indifferent.

Matt

My Airstream wrote:

> Oh Happy Days,
>     I was cleaning the stowage area near the reefer and I found one of the
> cylinders and both of the handles.  So now all I need is one cylinder.
>
> The stock fan motor that fit in this vent has two red wires.  The
> aftermarket fan motor has a red and black wire in the picture.  I have to
> figure out which of the red wires is supposed to take 12V and which is
> ground.  Trying to find out if the old fan is still OK and don't want to
> burn it out in the process.
>
> Thanx,
> Bob
> 66 Safari in Oceanside
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> To: <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
>
> > offlist
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > You may wish to still purchase a set of Andy's vent operators as a
> temporary
> > solution until you are able to find a set of the originals. They are VERY
> > hard to come by. I was able to find one salvageable one off an older
> wrecked
> > SOB. Ocassionally people replace their old hehr vents with a fantastic
> fan,
> > you may be able to buy the lifters off of them, but often they wish to
> keep
> > the lifters as spares for their other vents.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 1:26 PM
> > Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> >
> >
> > > Scott,
> > >     I was curious why the casting on the handles were not the same shape
> > as
> > > the stock handles.  So my quest continues for one set of original LaDeu
> > > openers.  I am going to order the replacement fan for the bathroom vent
> > from
> > > inlandrv.  They are performing a very valuable service.  And it would
> not
> > be
> > > the first time that aftermarket parts sacrifice "something" to modern
> > > economics.
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> > > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:44 AM
> > > Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bob, In all fairness, I need to warn you that the vent operators that
> > Andy
> > > > offers are not a exact duplicate of the LaDeu openers that you are
> used
> > > to.
> > > > They require MANY more turns to get the vent open and then they do not
> > > raise
> > > > the vent as far as the originals. That said, they are the only
> > alternative
> > > I
> > > > know of. You will want to replace them in pairs.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > > 1960 Overlander
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 11:02 PM
> > > > Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanx for the pointer.  I will be ordering a number of parts in the
> > near
> > > > > future.
> > > > > Bob
> > > > > Oceanside
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <Inlandrv@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 9:32 AM
> > > > > Subject: [VAC] Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bob. We have the vent operators that you need. You can see them on
> > our
> > > > web
> > > > > > site,   inlandrv.com    Click on parts and then scroll to part
> > number
> > > > > 83792.
> > > > > > Click on "view part" to see it.    Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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--
Pam, Matt and Darrell Worner
WBCCI, VAC, WNJU & WDCU #4971
1975 31' Sovereign, (The Tinsel Tubesteak)
1976 24' Argosy rear door (Bun Metallica)
2000 F-350 PSD
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