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VACList-Digest Thursday, April 18, 2002 Issue 277
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Tire Removal
2. Re:
3. Re: Fan/Light Fixtures
4. Re:
5. 25 Year Rule and OTHER TRAILERS of VINTAGE "status"
6. Re:
7. Re:
8. Re: 25" high vehicle
9. Re:
10. Re: Dropped Ball Mounts for Receiver Hitches
11. Re: Dropped Ball Mounts for Receiver Hitches
12. Fw: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1820983684: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
13. Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
14. Re: Aluminum skin
15. Re:
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Message Number: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:48:03 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: Tire Removal
Don, most people use wood blocks to pull onto to level the trailer side
to side while camping. You don't need anything fancy, just two or three
boards of varying lengths. Put them next to the good tire and pull up
onto them. This way one item (the boards) which you will need, will
perform 2 functions, leveling and jack. One less thing to buy and carry
around with you.
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Hardman
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:35 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re: Tire Removal
I was able to jack the trailer by placing a screw type jack at the
frame just behind the rear wheel. But I am going to get one of those
devices that you pull one wheel on to raise the other. Thanks for the
help.
I need to take one of my tires of, it has a slow leak. How do you
jack up a 1976 31' Sovereign? The manual says there is a label on the
frame to rear of the tire(s). I did not see one.
Thanks
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Message Number: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:23:33 -0400
From: "Roseanne Dunkerley" <rdunk@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
> NOTE: WE ASKED TO BE TAKEN OFF YOUR EMAIL LIST
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Message Number: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 21:13:15 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Fan/Light Fixtures
Hoyt,
Many years ago Airstream changed the plastic used the the light lens. It is a
bright white now. They are available from Airstream through any dealer pn
201154. The white insert moulding is also available pn 200035
Charlie
Hoyt Oliver wrote:
> I have a 1975 Land Yacht 25' which has yellowed extensively on all interior
> surfaces. The vinyl trim and the plastic light fixtures are particularly
> affected. How can I get the yellow out. I am reminded of the old Ipana
> Toothpaste commercial when I ask that question. Also, is there a prohibition
> against using cleaning solutions with ammonia, vinegar and baking soda
> ingredients on interior and exterior surfaces?
> Thanks
> Hoyt Oliver
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Message Number: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 22:52:31 -0500
From: "Paul & Trudi Schaefer" <wadenhoe@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
Scott,
Re continued awning talk...our ancient, yes-it-fits-the-Overlander
rail...has no grommets nor anything that gives a hint, not the slightest
suggestion, of how it was once supported once off the trailer. We remain
curious re photos, manuals, whatever.
Please do get back to us re dimensions, as in:
-total fabric size
-pockets or grommets or...to hold the poles
-how many poles, of what size, material, collapsible, etc
-guys? How many, if any..what indeed do you do when you are on
slab or gravel or a rocky place with no penetration possibilities?
Thanks,
Paul,
'60 Overlander
-----Original Message-----
From: VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net [mailto:VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:02 PM
To: Multiple recipients of VACList
Subject: [VAC]
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Message Number: 11
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:54:57 -0500
From: "Paul & Trudi Schaefer" <wadenhoe@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re:
Scott,
Re your recent "awnings" posting...we have what appears to be the
original awning for our "60 Overlander: a great heavy canvas thing with
a bead enabling for the railing on the trailer. We have used it several
times but the mystery is that there are no grommets, etc on the awning
enabling us to "tent" the non-trailer side [we have simply cut saplings
and tied them into the fabric, not a great look nor practical!].
Questions:
1. How were the awnings originally supported once away from the rail?
Are there photos? 2. Did people always travel with a ladder to enable
them to get up
there and install the awning?
3. What material are you currently using, and are you pleased with the
result? 4. Would you please describe in some detail, or with a sketch,
your
current set-up, including poles, dimensions, guying, etc.
Thank you,
Paul Schaefer
'60 Overlander
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Message Number: 15
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:17:12 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: awnings
Paul,
All the awnings I have seen for RV's have grommets for tent poles with
the exception of something I have seen, I think at Camping World, which
has a self supporting frame. The awning for our home's porch has
"pockets" in the fabric to insert poles. These pockets allow a complete
frame to slide in, so guy wires are not necessary. A nice set up, but
more poles than I am currently willing to lug around with me on the
road.
We use a three step, step ladder. Ocassionally we use one of our chairs
also. This has been sufficient for us.
The awning material we use is just run of the mill canvas, purchased at
a canvas/awning shop. They made it to our specs and even had heavy duty
poles available. It is suprisingly light weight. I expected it to be
much heavier. We could of spent extra for lighter weight fabric, but I
am happy that we did not. It is the same color and pattern that is used
on most Airstreams - I think it was called fancy blue. We are very happy
with it. After a little practice it takes us about 5 to 7 minutes to put
it up. Perhaps more if the ground is hard. As for dimensions, let me get
back to you on that.
Scott
1960 Overlander
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul & Trudi Schaefer" <wadenhoe@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:54 AM
Subject: [VAC] Re:
> Scott,
> Re your recent "awnings" posting...we have what appears to be the
> original awning for our "60 Overlander: a great heavy canvas thing
> with a bead enabling for the railing on the trailer. We have used it
> several times but the mystery is that there are no grommets, etc on
> the awning enabling us to "tent" the non-trailer side [we have simply
> cut saplings and tied them into the fabric, not a great look nor
> practical!].
> Questions:
> 1. How were the awnings originally supported once away from the rail?
> Are there photos?
> 2. Did people always travel with a ladder to enable them to get up
> there and install the awning?
> 3. What material are you currently using, and are you pleased with
the
> result?
> 4. Would you please describe in some detail, or with a sketch, your
> current set-up, including poles, dimensions, guying, etc.
>
> Thank you,
> Paul Schaefer
> '60 Overlander
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Message Number: 5
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:19:23 EDT
From: ThreePeaksRanch@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: 25 Year Rule and OTHER TRAILERS of VINTAGE "status"
In a message dated 4/17/02 5:01:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
VACList@xxxxxxxxxx.net writes:
<< Message Number: 18
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:20:53 -0600
From: "Randy Unter" <runter@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: 25-year rule
It disturbs me that folks are even thinking about sub-dividing VAC members.
The joy of being a VAC-er is to celebrate the diversity represented by the
different age/model a/s and their owners. Here in the Rocky Mountains, we
even welcome Avions to our rallies and enjoy studying the differences in
design/construction. On April 26-28, the RM VAC Group will be joining the
Denver Area WBCCI Club for a rally east of Denver at the Ainsworth Ranch. We
will have at least 10 vintage a/s there-even Roger Hightower is coming up
from Mesa, AZ to attend (he's been looking for a reason to test his new
Power Stroke). Windish Airstream will have one of the new "techie" a/s
models for us to view, and Fred Coldwell, VAC Historian, will be reciting
Airstream history and VAC and show the new "burned to DVD" Capetown to Cairo
film of Wally's now famous Rally. I credit Louie DeCarolis, Denver WBCCI
President and VAC convert for pulling this all together. So for those who
bought a new a/s to retire in, this should be an eye opener for them.
I'll be taking photos and send them along to Bryan for the newsletter.
Randy Unter
'66 Overlander International
Region 11 VAC Representative
>>
VAC LISTEES....
I just got back from a few hours at the Delta Rally....(some folks still need
to work, yes:) )....All I can really say is that it was a wonderful moment
EACH TIME someone came up to shake my hand, give me a hug, ask if they could
be of assistance setting up the trailers I brought. All I can SAY is THANK
YOU to all of those at the VAC rallies who do so. It's always a good weekend,
even when some of these trailers I tow don't have it "all together YET". With
the knowledge that is shared at the rallies, whether they are VAC or WBCCI
unit rallies (which I love to attend too....even though most of mine are
definitely over 25 years old) the folks I meet, stay in touch with, and hang
out with are the FRIENDLIEST, most wonderful, helpful, warm individuals.
(I've only met a few very unpleasant know-it-alls with their cherried out
units that were "done" before they owned them.) I've even invited a few over
for courtesy parking, fishing, riding, hiking, bbq's.....These are the kind
of people I see in the VAC as well as in the WBCCI. It doesn't matter if the
old timers don't subscribe to the list, I mostly sit back and learn. Thank
you to all the people who help out, there's always another way to fix
something, another technique for polishing, another something to learn.
I'm just saying THANK YOU to all who have been of assistance to me over the
past...and to those I will learn from and meet in the future.
Off to the Delta again Fri.....cya there....
Wendy (here's the current list for you Brad!)
52 Flying Cloud (guest house, belongs to my brother come Dec)
58 Flying Cloud (guest house)
59 Ambassador (ranch lounge/office)
60 TW (rally unit)
60 TW (gutted/storage.....for sale)
64 GT (guest house)
65 TW (sweet/rally unit, for sale)
and an A/S motorhome for WBCCI rallies
and a slew of other SOB's
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Message Number: 6
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 00:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: airstream lover <caravel66@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re:
Has any one found an alternative to cloudy vista
windows besides replacing or breaking?
Also, I have a new vehicle that sits abnormally high.
I would like to be able to use my sway bars but I can
not find a hitch that drops enough. My receiver hitch
sits at 25". I need at least a 4-6 inch drop to make
the trailer level.. I tried the brand new EZ lift that
is adjustable but I was not able to get it low enough
and still have both bolts screwed in. I know that
there are a few out there but I wanted advice from the
experienced.
Al
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Message Number: 7
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:15:55 -0400
From: "Ann Jackob" <ajackob@m2000.net>
Subject: Re:
Al , get a Hensley hitch You will love it.
> Has any one found an alternative to cloudy vista
> windows besides replacing or breaking?
> Also, I have a new vehicle that sits abnormally high.
> I would like to be able to use my sway bars but I can
> not find a hitch that drops enough. My receiver hitch
> sits at 25". I need at least a 4-6 inch drop to make
> the trailer level.. I tried the brand new EZ lift that
> is adjustable but I was not able to get it low enough
> and still have both bolts screwed in. I know that
> there are a few out there but I wanted advice from the
> experienced.
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
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Message Number: 8
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:43:54 +0000
From: "Frank M. 'Mitch' Hill" <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: 25" high vehicle
At 00:27 04/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Also, I have a new vehicle that sits abnormally high.
>I would like to be able to use my sway bars but I can
>not find a hitch that drops enough. My receiver hitch
>sits at 25". I need at least a 4-6 inch drop to make
>the trailer level..
Try Reese, they offer a couple of optional extended height hitch ball mount
with
a 6" drop...
for information:
www.reeseprod.com
Mitch Hill - WA1YKN / AFA1HN
64 AS Ambassador I'ntl
WBCCI #21960
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Message Number: 9
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:55:15 -0400
From: Jim Dunmyer <jdunmyer@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re:
Al,
I needed about 1 1/2" additional drop on my EZ-Lift hitch when I
traded trucks. It was a simple matter for me to weld a 3" long piece of
2" X 2" stock to the bottom of the "downcomer" and drill/bore it to
49/64" for the 3/4" bolt. That allowed dropping the adjustable hitch
head the proper amount.
If you don't have welding and drilling equipment, you should be able to
find a welding shop to do the job for you at minimal cost.
<<Jim>>
airstream lover wrote:
> Has any one found an alternative to cloudy vista
> windows besides replacing or breaking?
> Also, I have a new vehicle that sits abnormally high.
> I would like to be able to use my sway bars but I can
> not find a hitch that drops enough. My receiver hitch
> sits at 25". I need at least a 4-6 inch drop to make
> the trailer level.. I tried the brand new EZ lift that
> is adjustable but I was not able to get it low enough
> and still have both bolts screwed in. I know that
> there are a few out there but I wanted advice from the
> experienced.
> Al
>
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Message Number: 10
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:44:51 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Allen" <kallen@xxxxxxxxxx.k12.il.us>
Subject: Re: Dropped Ball Mounts for Receiver Hitches
> Also, I have a new vehicle that sits abnormally high.
> I would like to be able to use my sway bars but I can
> not find a hitch that drops enough. My receiver hitch
> sits at 25". I need at least a 4-6 inch drop to make
> the trailer level..
If you don't mind Reese products, they have a "deep drop" mount available
for their units. I have a Reese Dual Cam Sway Control equipped ball mount
on my '99 Suburban K2500 that has a 9" drop. It was a standard part
available from a Reese Dealer. None of the Brand X dealers were aware of
its availability, but my regular Airstream Dealer, Ace Fogdall RV, had one
in-stock ready to go when I dropped by with my problematic hitch. It works,
and I am totally satisfied.
I tried the brand new EZ lift that
> is adjustable but I was not able to get it low enough
> and still have both bolts screwed in. I know that
> there are a few out there but I wanted advice from the
> experienced.
> Al
>
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1975 Cadillac (prospective tow vehicle)
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Message Number: 11
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:17:13 -0700
From: "My Airstream" <myairstream@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Dropped Ball Mounts for Receiver Hitches
> If you don't mind Reese products, "
Wally Byam didn't "mind" Reese products. Most older vintage coaches used
Reese products. Why would anyone "mind" Reese products???
Bob
Oceanside
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Message Number: 12
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:44:25 -0400
From: "James Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Fw: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1820983684: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
Spotted a Hehr aluminum vent cover on Ebay somebody may need. There's also a
fiberglass refrigerator vent cover as used on '50s and early '60s trailers.
The Ebay item number for it is 1821845528.
Jim
> Title of item: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
> Seller: belmont@xxxxxxxxxx.net
> Starts: Apr-12-02 13:03:30 PDT
> Ends: Apr-22-02 13:03:30 PDT
> Price: Currently $22.50
> To bid on the item, go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1820983684
>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:08:58 -0700
From: "Brad Norgaard" <canerods@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: Vintage Airstream HEHR Aluminum Vent Cover
Hi gang. I have an extra one of these as well, however I needed to remove
the vent opener mechanisms by drilling out the rivets. The vent cover is in
two pieces due to removing the rivets, in case someone needs one. I'm
looking for a vent opener knob, not the lift mechanism just the knob.
Brad Norgaard
'59 Trade Wind
on 4/18/02 1:44 PM, James Greene at drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:
> Spotted a Hehr aluminum vent cover on Ebay somebody may need. There's also a
> fiberglass refrigerator vent cover as used on '50s and early '60s trailers.
> The Ebay item number for it is 1821845528.
>
> Jim
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Message Number: 14
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 02 17:24:17 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: Aluminum skin
> Short of going to a machine shop is there a good way to bend
>the material to the appropriate curve? Anybody have any suggestions,
=====
I had to replace some pieces similar to your problem. I made a cardboard
template that simulated the curve and went to a shop that had some scrap
aluminum plus a large shaping machine and we bent the piece into shape.
It was kind of funny watching this guy with a 18" x 20" piece of aluminum
inserting it manually in this machine designed for 12ft steel sheets
(made/repaired steel tanks). Good luck.
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Message Number: 15
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 02 17:24:19 -0600
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re:
>I have posted this 4 times now with no response from anyone, since I am so
=======
Perhaps the reason to did not get a response is because you do not put a
subject heading on your message. It is the method a lot of us use to
screen the messages. I for one do open a message that does not have a
subject heading.
Roy
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