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VAL Digest V1 #60
VAL Digest Saturday, November 8 2003 Volume 01 : Number 060
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Topics in Today's Digest:
[VAL] AirStream Family
Re: [VAL] AirStream Family
RE: [VAL] Switch by door
Re: [VAL] AirStream Family
[VAL] Tambour doors
Re: [VAL] Switch by door
Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
RE: [VAL] Command Center was Switch by door
Re: [VAL] AirStream Family
Re: [VAL] Command Center was Switch by door
Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #59
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 06:26:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Tognetti <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] AirStream Family
Hi All,
I would like to thank everyone for all their advice and insight into this. We are really
enjoying the feeling of the Airstream family. Having been camping for years now as a
family we have made some good friends. Walking into a larger and friendlier Family is a
bonus. I think we pretty much decided that we want it, unless after this weekend's cleaning,
I find something Major with it we will be purchasing it.
Once again thanks. Hope to meet some of you on the road. I sure I'll be doing my share of
asking questions.
Chris, Amy, Natalie, Jordan Tognetti
Willie (Alaskan Malamute)
59 TradeWind
Newton, New Jersey
P.S. Anyone in North New Jersey close by willing to come take a look?
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:18:04 EST
From: Njgardensnosale@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] AirStream Family
IM in West Orange I will come take a look........If you want?
Although IM no expert! I did have to do a fair amount of work on my 74
Sovereign
Thomas in West Orange,N.J
74 International Sovereign........30 years old this month and still rolling
96 one ton Dodge ram van
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:53:50 -0700
From: "Jim Cooper" <jcchome@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Switch by door
GQ,
I've never seen a manual. It would be great to have a scanned copy.
Much thanks for the offer.
Best Regards,
Jim
jcchome@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]
> On Behalf Of Gary Quamen
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:18 AM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch by door
>
> > I've been following this thread, and it seems that I am the only one
who
> > mentioned a switch above their door (67 Tradewind) that turns on
power
> > to the water pump. Is this unique? I assume all A/S's have a
switch
> > for the pump somewhere -- you wouldn't want it running if the tank
was
> > empty.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Jim
>
> Hey Jim:
>
> You must not have the manual for it. My manual has the wiring
diagrams
> (crude but fairly accurate) for your model. Is depicted on a plan
layout
> of
> the trailer and gives the general location of stuff. Want me to scan
and
> send it to you?
>
> GQ '67 Safari
> 4082 in CA
>
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:04:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Tognetti <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] AirStream Family
Hi Thomas,
Always nice to get a second opinion on things. I tend to get blinders on at times when I find
something I want. Let me clean it out so that its easy to go through and when you have some
spare time to come up we'll make arrangements.
You wouldn't be part of one of the NJ Airstream clubs would you?
Chris, Amy, Natalie, Jordan Tognetti
Willie (Alaskan Malamute)
59 TradeWind
Newton, New Jersey
Njgardensnosale@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
IM in West Orange I will come take a look........If you want?
Although IM no expert! I did have to do a fair amount of work on my 74
Sovereign
Thomas in West Orange,N.J
74 International Sovereign........30 years old this month and still rolling
96 one ton Dodge ram van
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:51:11 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Tambour doors
I've been rebuilding the galley in my 1975 Sovereign and have to replace the
tambour material in the doors. A search of Tom Patterson's site came up
with one posting where someone bought a 4x8 sheet of material from an
Airstream dealer for $243.00 or so. But the dark walnut is no longer
available.
Winona Manufacturing http://www.winonamanufacturing.com/
has this material in the proper color (#243) for $48.00 a 4x8 sheet. Quite
a difference.
The salesman is quite knowledgeable about vintage Airstreams, and knew just
what color I needed when I described the trailer.
Just for information, in case someone wants to save a little money.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI #4165,VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:07:21 -0800
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Switch by door
> GQ,
>
> I've never seen a manual. It would be great to have a scanned copy.
> Much thanks for the offer.
>
> Best Regards,
> Jim
Er....Hi again Jim:
I would be happy to scan and send you a copy of the electrical diagram and
will do so later today. If you need a copy of the whole manual, they
apparently are available from someone at Airstream HQ in Jackson Center. I
don't remember what the name is or the particulars but I'm sure that someone
on the list does and would be glad to provide same.
GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:02:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
That's 'cause they're from Minnesota. (c:
Toby
(from MN)
- --- Roger Hightower <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
...
> Winona Manufacturing
> http://www.winonamanufacturing.com/
> has this material in the proper color (#243) for
> $48.00 a 4x8 sheet. Quite
> a difference.
>
> The salesman is quite knowledgeable about vintage
> Airstreams, and knew just
> what color I needed when I described the trailer.
>
> Just for information, in case someone wants to save
> a little money.
>
> Roger
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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 10:11:24 -0800
From: Steve Boyd <steve.boyd@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Command Center was Switch by door
FWIW,
On my 68 Caravel there is no "command center" as described in some of
the recent posts. It seems to me to be very much a base model with few
of the bells and whistles some folks describe for their same year and
model trailer. I previously owned a 69 Overlander which did have the
command center, this in the front overhead cabinet. My Overlander was
an "International" model, and from the recent discussion, it seems
likely to me that the command center is something that was an upgrade
option on the "Land Yacht" trim models, but standard equipment on the
International. Also, my Caravel is a California-made coach. If I'm not
mistaken, the Santa Fe Springs plant was closed soon after 1968, so
coaches rolling out of there in 1968 may have been low-end, close-out
models.
Wild speculation, but hey, I'm good at that.
Steve Boyd
Riverside, CA
68 Caravel
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:53:09 EST
From: Njgardensnosale@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] AirStream Family
In a message dated 11/7/03 11:05:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
You wouldn't be part of one of the NJ Airstream clubs would you?
Chris, Amy, Natalie, Jordan Tognetti
Willie (Alaskan Malamute)
59 TradeWind
Newton, New Jersey
I sent you mail offlist
Thomas
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:14:02 -0500
From: "Jim Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Command Center was Switch by door
Not on the 68 Land Yacht Tradewind, Steve. My trailer has the comand center
and it isn't the International trim. It does not have the scare light
recently discussed.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
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From: "Steve Boyd" <steve.boyd@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] Command Center was Switch by door
> FWIW,
>
> On my 68 Caravel there is no "command center" as described in some of
> the recent posts. It seems to me to be very much a base model with few
> of the bells and whistles some folks describe for their same year and
> model trailer. I previously owned a 69 Overlander which did have the
> command center, this in the front overhead cabinet. My Overlander was
> an "International" model, and from the recent discussion, it seems
> likely to me that the command center is something that was an upgrade
> option on the "Land Yacht" trim models, but standard equipment on the
> International. Also, my Caravel is a California-made coach. If I'm not
> mistaken, the Santa Fe Springs plant was closed soon after 1968, so
> coaches rolling out of there in 1968 may have been low-end, close-out
> models.
>
> Wild speculation, but hey, I'm good at that.
>
> Steve Boyd
> Riverside, CA
> 68 Caravel
>
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:05:35 -0600
From: dean <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
I think you have the wrong number and price.
That may be a price for a plastic tambour but I just
called the factory and it was about $75 plus shipping.
Still not too bad a price for repair of all the doors.
One sheet will work well.
Dean
On Nov 7, 2003, at 11:02 AM, Toby Folwick wrote:
> That's 'cause they're from Minnesota. (c:
>
> Toby
> (from MN)
>
> --- Roger Hightower <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> ...
>> Winona Manufacturing
>> http://www.winonamanufacturing.com/
>> has this material in the proper color (#243) for
>> $48.00 a 4x8 sheet. Quite
>> a difference.
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:53:27 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
"I think you have the wrong number and price.
That may be a price for a plastic tambour but I just
called the factory and it was about $75 plus shipping.
Still not too bad a price for repair of all the doors.
One sheet will work well.
Dean"
You're absolutely right. I don't know where I got the $48.00 price from.
$75.00 is correct.
Roger
Roger Hightower
WBCCI #4165,VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
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Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:04:27 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Tambour doors
That's about what I paid too,
daisy
dean wrote:
> I think you have the wrong number and price.
> That may be a price for a plastic tambour but I just
> called the factory and it was about $75 plus shipping.
> Still not too bad a price for repair of all the doors.
> One sheet will work well.
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Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:35:41 -0600
From: "bsshrink" <bsshrink@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #59
I believe a lot of light can be shed here by describing the difference
between a Land Yacht & an International Land Yacht. Many of the
International;s I've seen have some sort of "Command Center" above the front
window including tank capacity lights, water pump controls and polarity
lights. Clocks. ets in some. They also often have a water filtration
system under the sink and may have a streetside/curbside reversal of
floorplan in the galley. My 69 Overlander International is as the Sovereign
described. The tank capacity lights are a bad joke but the rest of the
gauges approach functionality if one persistently pushes the right switch.
I also still had one of the styrofoam 4X8 speakers (since removed) in the
curved headrail in front , no rear speakers (unlike Dr Green's Tradewind).
The switch closest to the door (front) operates the mid cabin overhead, if
it is in "ON" position, the one further forward under the curtains, is for
the "scare light".
Do not despair the lack of a "command center", it is a bewildering array of
redundant and incomprehensible wiring.
Dr Jeff Miller
KCMO
69 Overbudget Inter-irrational
03 Silverado 1500HD
- ----- Original Message ----- > Several of you with 68's have pump switches
in the "command center". My
> 67 TW doesn't have a command center. If it did, would it be over the
> front window? I have completely rebuilt that cabinet. There was no
> sign of a command panel in the original. What function does the panel
> provide? Can someone provide a picture of one?
>
> Best Regards,
> Jim>
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