VAL Digest V1 #27

VAL Digest           Monday, October 6 2003           Volume 01 : Number 027




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] '66 Caravel Furnace removal
RE: [VAL] What is tube for?
[VAL] baby moon
[VAL] Reproduction Bargman 99's 
[VAL] Townsend Toilet - '66 Caravel
Re: [VAL] Reproduction Bargman 99's
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #26 - Battery compartment vent tube

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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 01:14:08 -0600
From: Rob Davis <rob-iod@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] '66 Caravel Furnace removal

RJ,

Your web page doesn't give a model number for the wheel well trim, did 
you use Hoskin & Muir #A604T?

Rob Davis

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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:37:26 -0400
From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] What is tube for?

My rv guy recommended we put the battery in a vented box so we cut a
small vent in the side and I painted it aluminum to match...hope this
will do.

Lexxy/aka/Lynn
see our stuff at:
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/index.htm 


>The vent tube is to move the flammable gasses from battery 
>charging (and to a lesser effect discharging) outside the 
>trailer. The bubbling near full charge can also transport some 
>battery acid. The gasses come off the electrolyte in the most 
>explosive ratio of two parts hydrogen to one part oxygen. Some 
>of us believe the battery should be outside the trailer 
>because of those fumes.
>
>Gerald J.

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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:57:41 -0500
From: "Chuck Schmitz" <chuckschmitz@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] baby moon

Anyone know a source for getting baby moon hubcaps for my 59 traveler.

Chuck Schmitz
Kansas City

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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:08:33 -0400
From: "Jim Stewart" <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Reproduction Bargman 99's 

Are the reproduction Bargman 99 tail light lens currently available?
Jim
'61 Bambi
'63 Avion T-20

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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 23:03:03 -0400
From: "Jim Wallace \(Wally\)" <maltnhops@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Townsend Toilet - '66 Caravel

Hello all,

  I have some questions regarding the Townsend toilet in my Caravel.   I have
been successful removing the bowl from the pedestal, but the pedestal is still
attached to the floor.

Problem #1 - The flange bolt in the front of the pedestal and under the foot
pedal has been cut off just above the nut to allow full operation of the foot
pedal.  How in the world can I get this nut off?  Does the flange have
"keyhole" type openings that would allow me to twist the pedestal and release
that bolt?  Once I finally get it out, is there a better bolt I can use that
will allow full movement of the pedal?

Problem #2 - One of the four bolts holding the bowl on the pedestal was rusted
badly.  I was lucky to get three nuts removed, but the rusted bolt snapped
off.  Can these bolts be removed from and replaced in the pedestal?  What
material is the pedestal made of?  Can it be drilled?  Has anyone dealt with
this problem?  What did you do?

Thanks to everyone in advance!  And thank you RJ for your furnace advice.  I'm
still fighting with it (and the furnace is still winning), but at least I know
there's hope.

- -Wally

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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 21:15:23 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Reproduction Bargman 99's

Jim,

Check out Airstreamdreams.com  They are about the only show in town..

Charlie

Jim Stewart wrote:

> Are the reproduction Bargman 99 tail light lens currently available?
> Jim
> '61 Bambi
> '63 Avion T-20
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 01:23:54 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #26 - Battery compartment vent tube

I've seen motorcycle batteries with vent tube nipples but never a car or
deep cycle battery.

That Jim's trailer's battery compartment is not ventilated except for the
tube suggests that it originally had a battery that had a nipple for the
tube, as such a small hole is nowhere near sufficient ventilation for the
compartment. I would suggest putting vent louvers or a grille in the
compartment's exterior door.

I have seen batteries that had exploded. Battery acid goes everywhere.
Plastic boxes are readily available for deep cycle batteries to be
enclosed in. If the battery ever leaks the box will catch the acid. I've
seen them at Walmart, auto parts stores, marine supply, etc.

As to putting the batteries outside the trailer body, all kinds of
equipment has its battery inside the outer skin of the vehicle. As long
as the compartment is well ventilated and drained to the outside, and is
sealed off from the rest of the space inside the skin, there's nothing
wrong with batteries inside the skin. Helps keep them from sprouting
legs. If people can't see your batteries, they're much less likely to
make off with them.

My trailer is the only thing I have had that has its batteries outside.
They are in a (fiberglass?) box mounted on a frame above the A-frame.
Automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, golf car, boat, you name it. They all
had their batteries inside.
Al Grayson

> [VAL] What is tube for?
> Re: [VAL] What is tube for?
> Re: [VAL] What is tube for?
> 
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> 
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:21:17 -0600
> From: "Jim Cooper" <jcchome@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] What is tube for?
> 
> My 67 tradewind has a plastic tube coming out the top of the battery
compartment door frame and hanging in the compartment. There is a small
vent opening on the outside skin above the door that the tube connects
to. So I have a length of tube opening to the outside and hanging in the
inside. 
> 
> My only guess is that this used to be some kind of off-gassing vent for
the battery. What the heck is this tube for? Does it have any modern
value? Do any of you with 66 - 68 Airstreams have such a thing?
>  
> Best Regards,
>    Jim
>  
>    jcchome@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> 
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> 
> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:59:52 -0500
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" 
> <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] What is tube for?
> 
> The vent tube is to move the flammable gasses from battery charging
(and to a lesser effect discharging) outside the trailer. The bubbling
near full charge can also transport some battery acid. The gasses come
off the electrolyte in the most explosive ratio of two parts hydrogen to
one part oxygen. Some of us believe the battery should be outside the
trailer because of those fumes.
> 
> Gerald J.
> - -- 
> Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer.
> Reproduction by permission only.
> 
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> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:31:29 EDT
> From: M1492@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] What is tube for?
> 
> my 67 safari has that tube ---some car battreys have a nippel for a
vent tube but i have never seen a r v typ battery with one
> i moved my battry to the toung  -so not a prob for me
>
> MARK
> 67 safari
> L I NY

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