VAL Digest V1 #115

VAL Digest           Friday, January 2 2004           Volume 01 : Number 115




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] platinum cat heater
[VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids
Re: [VAL] VAL tire skids
Re: [VAL] VAL tire skids
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids
Re: [VAL] RE: Tire Skids
Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids
Re: [VAL] * * * Vintage Airstream Club 2004 Rocky Mountain  Rally * * *
Re: [VAL] tire skids
Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 01:21:49 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] platinum cat heater

Harry
A vented cat heater would be real nice. Mine is not but we only use it for
short periods, 5-10 minutes.
Good luck on getting it and let me know how the install went once your done.
May want to replace mine.

Take care
Bobby

  Wrom: JMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYU
   i have been patient and will continue to be so for a
  while because this cat heater is the only one that i have found to be
  vented. that is to say that all co2 and water vapors are expelled out of
the
  trailer by a fan driven vent. this makes for a wonderful heater, the
  advantages of catalytic without the fumes or condensation.
  harry
  franktown co
  66 safari

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 01:44:54 -0500
From: "publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com" <publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office

I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st. Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 00:22:58 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office

Ok Maurice. It's January 1st. Come back already.



on 12/31/03 11:44 PM, publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com at publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com
wrote:

> I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st. Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:16:49 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids

RJ - In checking out the Bubble site you sent me, I see shocks - I 
don't have shocks. Also what are the two round looking things above the 
axle inboard from the shocks and wheels?
> Yet the axle on the Bubble there wasn't:
> http://vintageairstream.com/archives1/%2757BubbleOI-1100dfs.jpg
>
Jo Ann

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:25:13 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] VAL tire skids

Thanks for the Info Colin. Before you part it out, could you measure 
the distance inboard from the wheel rim to the U bolt. Or post a 
picture of the installation?
Jo Ann
p.s. Did you say, "Roll Over"? Care to elaborate?

> J The skids are U bolted to the axle. I would imagine it was done
> this way to avoid adding any heat to the axle during installation.
> Colin

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 12:35:05 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] VAL tire skids

Gary:
    More good info - I like the "Shock & Awe". If I had to chose between 
dropping the trailer onto the skid it would be hard to decide between 
the axle or the frame, but a new axle is about $700 versus dragging the 
belly and tanks over the road if the frame gave way. What do you think?
Jo Ann
p.s. if the rest of the board is tired of reading about the skid thing, 
I would be happy to take it outside. jw
>

> Note that the skid that RJ is referring to is chassis mounted near 
> between
> the wheel and the back bumper.  An acceptable location as far as I'm
> concerned.  A final word from me on this subject (a welcome prospect 
> to many
> I'm sure) is to consider this:
> If it is generally accepted that it is not advisable to place a jack 
> under
> the Dura-Torque axle, rather under the frame proximate to the wheel, 
> why
> would it be acceptable to place an even greater load on the axle in 
> the same
> location?  Kind of a "Shock and Awe" situation.  Apply a substantial 
> shock
> load and say, "Awe, my axle is bent....".

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:07:53 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle

Joy - I had a Dexter straight axle with electric brakes put on my '56 
Bubble. This raised the trailer 3 additional inches but I can't tell 
you much more since it's been up on jacks getting rebuilt ever since. I 
think the total bill, including new break-away mechanism and 7-prong 
wiring and Prodigy hookup was under $1K. Some stock  trailer shop guys 
did it.
Jo Ann
>
> Has anyone ordered replacement axles from Dexter for Airstream, and is 
> the
> axle satisfactory?

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:17:32 -0600
From: DL <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids

You know,  1956 was a long time ago.  It don't look like
anyone needed them before so why do you think you
need them now?
Keep good tires with the correct air in them and go
on the road and have fun..

73
Dean L    W5GXL

  Jan 1, 2004, at 2:07 PM, Joann Wheatley wrote:
> . So to recap:
> 1. Have skids or not?
> 2. If yes, where and how (weld onto the frame or bolt on - the 
> frame/leaf springs/axle)
> 3. Shape the skids how?

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:23:12 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Tire Skids

Deborah - please email me off list - I have a couple of questions since 
you're the only other Bubbler that has skids.
Jo Ann

jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu

On 1, Jan 2004, at 7:47 AM, Deborah Bede wrote:

> My 1955 Bubble has tire skids, bolted onto the leaf springs with big
> U-bolts.

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 13:35:00 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids

Ah Dean... a voice crying in the wilderness. Why indeed? I guess it's 
the belt AND suspenders thing. jo ann

On 1, Jan 2004, at 1:17 PM, DL wrote:
> You know,  1956 was a long time ago.  It don't look like
> anyone needed them before so why do you think you
> need them now?
> Keep good tires with the correct air in them and go
> on the road and have fun..
> Dean L    W5GXL

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 14:43:45 -0700
From: Maxwell <maxwell@insideout-design.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] * * * Vintage Airstream Club 2004 Rocky Mountain  Rally * * *

Hi Earl ~

The prices on the registration form are per trailer except for the 
t-shirt which is per shirt.  Some folks want only one shirt while others 
want 2 or 3 so we have pulled that out separately this year.  Also the 
"Night out on the Town" Monday will be an optional activity and be 
priced per person and is not included. Otherwise the rally fee covers 
the "included" activities on the "activities" link and your campsite 
fees.  Feel free to contact me off line if you have any additional 
questions or want to discuss any other details...I look forward to 
meeting you, Marlene and your trailer this summer ~ at least now you 
have something to look forward to in order to get you through your long 
winter! 

Cheers!

- -- 
Shari Davis "Wagon Mistress"
'64 GlobeTrotter
WBCCI #1824, VAC
www.InsideOut-Design.net/Maxwell
maxwell@insideout-design.net

Earl Peck wrote:

>Hi Shari,
>Glad to get the dates and activities list.  Are the prices listed on your
>site per person or per unit?  This will be our first rally of any sort so
>it's all new to us.  Although the excitement is building it's hard to get
>motivated to shovel a path through the 2+ feet of new snow (here in sunny
>Sun Valley Idaho) out to the barn to start polishing the aluminum today.
>However, if the Rose Bowl goes bad it may be a great way to remove some
>frustration.
> Our application will be in the mail as soon as we recieve verification on
>the price.
>Best wishes for the New Year,
>Earl and Marlene Peck
>WBCCI 1965
>1965 Overlander

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 18:48:15 -0500
From: Alexkensington@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] tire skids

Thanks Dr Gerald!

I am now on the road anyway, so it may have to wait a bit... say until spring!  Gib'town or Bust!

Alex Kensington

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:45:36 +0000
From: satdjpete@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: VAL tire skids

       I guess its learn with age,and possibly by dumb luck.
    By the grace of God I didnt hurt myself or anybody near me,with a trailer that I had 
towed from Pa to TN and all over for Three years and was maintained pretty well inluding 
bearings and brakes YEARLY. 
     I hadnt read RJ Dial,s accident report (tnx RJ) So I knew nothing about possible metal 
fatigue at the time mine failed Had my skid plates or tire skids held, damage would have 
been minimal and more importantly I would not have endangered my fellow travelers .  
     I SIMPLY CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE WOULD BALK AT SOME MINOR PROPERLY INSTALLED 
ITEM THAT COULD SAVE EQUIPMENT AND POSSIBLY LIFE OR LIMB.
     We cannot expect the factory think of everything for us nor can we allow safety to 
be secondary we are part of a great hobby or way of life but its up to us to keep it as 
safe as possible. We use these trailers every day and that by the way is what makes this 
list so great The shareing of our happenings and upgrades and "near misses".
  No Im not a preacher!!!! No offense
                I was towing a 65 Caravel through Mass. when the right axle failed when i 
caught it it came down hard on left and broke it. oivay.
     Whats chances of the officer who comes to help you having a best friend whos into 
antique trailers, whos best friend is the owner mgr of the nearest camper sales near you, 
Who knows all about duratorques and dexters.
     And you wonder why I say Im blessed!!!
                                  Happy New Years to you all,
                                  Pete, 68 TW,WBCCI,VAC
                         Here on Earth God's work must be our own (JFK 1961)
> Ah Dean... a voice crying in the wilderness. Why indeed? I guess it's 
> the belt AND suspenders thing. jo ann
> 
> On 1, Jan 2004, at 1:17 PM, DL wrote:
> > You know,  1956 was a long time ago.  It don't look like
> > anyone needed them before so why do you think you
> > need them now?
> > Keep good tires with the correct air in them and go
> > on the road and have fun..
> > Dean L    W5GXL
> 
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 19:12:54 -0600
From: "Oliver Homestead B&B" <oliverhome@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle

Try Dexter Axle at (660) 542-9968. Address is 1 Municipal Dr, Carrollton, MO
64633
Paul and Pam
5727



- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: [VAL] Dexter Axle


> Hi All,
>
> I've been out of pocket for nearly a year do to the death of my Dad,
taking
> care of the estate, and caring for my Mom.  I now have some time to call
my
> own and would like to get the axle replaced on my '69 Safari.  My contact
a
> year ago was Wnyne Kirby at Dexter Axle in Carrollton, MO.
Unfortunately,
> my computer crashed during the interim and I lost most of my files.  Does
> anyone know if the contact is still valid?
>
> Has anyone ordered replacement axles from Dexter for Airstream, and is the
> axle satisfactory?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
>                                                                '69 Safari,
> Joy
>
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