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VAL Digest         Saturday, December 27 2003         Volume 01 : Number 109




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
[VAL] Diesel Grinch
Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls
[VAL] Brake controller wiring problem
[VAL] Smart Tires
[VAL] Re: METRIC?
[VAL] Airstream Park still operating in Florida
Re: [VAL] Airstream Park still operating in Florida
[VAL] Good News
[VAL] Stove Fan Cover Reattachment (boy am I stupid)
Re: [VAL] Airstream Park still operating in Florida
Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
Re: [VAL] Stove Fan Cover Reattachment (boy am I stupid)
Re: [VAL] Diesel Grinch
[VAL] Traveler
[VAL] Hobbyists modify GM's OnStar system
Re: [VAL] Hobbyists modify GM's OnStar system
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
[VAL] Wide whitewalls
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
RE: [VAL] Stove Fan Cover Reattachment (boy am I stupid)
Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
RE: [VAL] Traveler

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 01:24:10 -0500
From: "publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com" <publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office

I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st. Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:45:02 -0800
From: "Tuna" <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office

hey... do you think maurice tierney is out of his office?

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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office


> I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st.
Thanks.

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:05:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Tognetti <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Diesel Grinch

Just an up date.  Truck is being tow to a garage for service.  From what I told the guy 
it sounds like it is the injector pump.  As when I bleed the filter and the water drain 
fuel flows freely this is telling him the frame pump is working.  He said he will test 
out the frame pump again once he gets it in.  If it works he will pull the fuel injector 
pump and send it out to be tested and rebuilt.
 
Great way to be introduced to the diesel world. Expensive lesson.
 
Happy holidays,
Chris and the Diesel Grinch


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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:42:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls

You can also get whitewalls to cement on to the sides
of regular tires - I believe I saw them at Coker Tire.

toby

- --- Jim Stewart <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
> The Whitewall Candy Store is offering a wide
> whitewall trailer tire for $184
> ea. I believe it is a Goodyear Marathon with a
> whitewall pressed on some
> way. (I called Goodyear, and they knew nothing about
> the tire). The web site
> is www.whitewallcandystore.com
> It might be fun to have these tires for show or
> around town. I decided I
> didn't want the tires since Goodyear wouldn't admit
> to making  them.
> For auto tires, Coker has a non radial wide wall
> rated over 1900 lbs.
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "overlander64" <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Cc: <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls
> 
> 
> > Greetings Roy!
> >
> > I don't know about the legality issue, but did
> notice that
> > the Porta Walls have become somewhat difficult to
> find.
> > There is one supplier that I know of for 15" Porta
> Walls in
> > the 1 3/4" whitewall width.  They are available
> via the web
> > store linked below:
> >
> > http://www.antiquecarparts.net/parts_are_parts.htm
> >
> > I don't know if these are the width that you had
> in mind,
> > but they are the only ones that I have seen
> available from a
> > US supplier.  The others have been either from
> Australia or
> > New Zeland.
> >
> > Good luck with your search!
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > Kevin D. Allen
> > WBCCI/VAC #6359
> > 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500
> Suburban
> > 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac
> Eldorado
> > Convertible
> >
> >
> > > Whitney catalog does not carry fake whitewalls
> and haven't
> > > found any  source.  I was told the feds.
> outlawed these
> > > for safety reasons?  If  anyone knows where they
> can be
> > > found please speak up.  Thanks
> > >
> > > Roy Lashway
> > > '78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
> > > WBCCI 1610     VAC
> > > rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > > web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
> > >    (polishing report included)
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:11:25 -0500
From: John Sellers <sellersj@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Brake controller wiring problem

Ivan,

The thought occurs to me that the brakes in your '55 Overlander were
probably made to operate on 6 Volts.  According to the Kelsey-Hayes
manual on the VAC web site, the 6 Volt magnets were about 2 Ohms
resistance and the 12 Volt magnets were about 4 Ohms.  If you have two
axles, the resistance of four 2 Ohm brake magnets in parallel would be
only 0.5 Ohms, and the brake controller self-test routine might
interpret this as a short circuit. (Overlanders were made in both
single-axle and double-axle versions.)

The first thing I would do is check the brake current and operation with
a battery and an ammeter.  (And a fuse in series, in case there is a
short somewhere!)  If the brakes work, then they're not shorted.  (At
least while you were testing them.)

If the brakes and wiring are actually OK but the brake controller thinks
they're shorted, one work-around might be to put a series resistor in
the line to bring the total resistance up to where the brake controller
expects it to be. (In those days Kelsey-Hayes sold resistors to operate
6 Volt brakes on 12 Volt systems.) Another solution might be to rewire
the brakes in series-parallel.  If I were going to do that I think I
would wire brakes on opposite sides in series so an open magnet or
connection would still leave one working brake on each side.

Good luck,

John Sellers
1960 Pacer
WBCCI/VAC #1587
   
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Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:46:55 -0700
From: Ivan <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: [VAL] Brake controller wiring problem

Hi Everyone,

            Here's one I hope someone will know the answer to: I've been
working on the wiring to my 55 overlander and I finally got everything
in
place. I completely replaced the harness on both truck (1980 chevy) and
trailer, installed a breakaway switch with battery as well as a prodigy
break controller.  All lights seem to work as they should, but the
prodigy
shows a short on idle (flashing S.H.).  The brakes on the trailer had
two
wires (green and white) while both the breakaway switch and the prodigy
have
a single blue wire for brakes. Since when I tested it there was
continuity
through the two brake wires, I assumed they can be combined and
connected
through the single wire... Is this not the case?  I really don't know a
thing about these early brakes, when I greased the axles I blew out all
the
dust and made sure the springs were all there and working.  Everything
looked like it was in pretty good condition after sitting for 10 years,
so I
left it in place. 

            As for the controller, the only other thing I can think of
is
that I ran the [+] to the aux wire from the ignition with no fuses or
anything.  Could this be the problem?

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:30:02 -0600
From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Smart Tires

Hello All,

Regarding the discussion about smart tires, I thought the following website 
might be of some interest:

http://www.smartire.com/fl/products/recreational.html

Brian Jenkins
#7819

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:19:47 EST
From: AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: METRIC?

In a message dated 12/25/2003 11:03:28 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Metric?
The "METRIC" tranny was supposedly left overs from the infamous VEGA and had 
no vacuum modulator. Since diesels have no vaccuum they used them in the GM V8 
deisels from about 1976 to 82. They beefed up the torque converter for the 
diesel but the rest of the piece of junk had alot of plastic parts inside that 
didn't hold up well.
While replacing my engine for the second time with a gas 350, I trashed the 
metric and installed a good ol 350 turbo trans. 

AlanT~ phx Az~ 74 Safari~ 93 Dodge Turbo Diesel

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:03:25 -0500
From: Alexkensington@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Airstream Park still operating in Florida

Hi gang!

Say I am trying to find out what Airstream park are still left operating in Florida. 

I undersatnd Melbourne has two; And one (Port o'Call) will be closing in April 2004

Who can tell me of the others? 

Alex In Indiana
wbcci # 8728
66 Safari & Overlander

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:24:41 -0500
From: Blair <hitek_airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream Park still operating in Florida

X-Airstream but still very Airstream Parks are Christmas(Christmas), 
Paradise(Punya Gorda) and Travelers Rest(Dade City)

Paradise and Travelers both have golf courses for those like me that chase 
the little white ball around, and around and around.

Blair

Hangin' in Key West
Because time Fly's


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>Hi gang!
>
>Say I am trying to find out what Airstream park are still left operating 
>in Florida.
>
>I undersatnd Melbourne has two; And one (Port o'Call) will be closing in 
>April 2004
>
>Who can tell me of the others?
>
>Alex In Indiana
>wbcci # 8728
>66 Safari & Overlander
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:34:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Tognetti <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Good News

Well I talk to Dan from over at Diesel Don's place.  He told me most likely it's the 
module on the injection pump or maybe the pump.  So I saw large numbers for repairs.  
He then told me that this is under warranty for 125000 miles or 11 years.  I'm under 
both.  After calling Chevrolet and talking to them he gave me this recall number. #00064E  
The normal warranty is only 80000 miles.  So the customer service rep call the dealer 
ship and they should be getting the truck for repairs as we talk.
 
As Dan told me the Injector pump gets hot and cooks the module.  They have a fix of moving 
the module to the fender on replacement.
 
Thank you all for all the responses.  Also thanks to list moderator for letting these off 
topic e-mail go on.
 
By the way I'm signing up for Diesel Don's mailing group as soon as the paper work gets 
to me.
 
Chris and the Diesel Grinch.
Might keep the name for the truck?



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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:43:27 -0500
From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Stove Fan Cover Reattachment (boy am I stupid)

Hello All and Happy Holidays from the Emericks!
 
I want to reinstall the inside fan cover over the stove of my 59
Traveler's stove vent but can't remember how it attaches ( one of the
few photos I did not take during my dismantling). This is the the cover
that is on the inside over the stove, it has two screw holes on the
cover but I can't see how they attach to the opening. This cover has the
chain that goes to the outside opens the cover and allows the fan motor
to start when opened. I can send a photo of the uncovered opening to
help show what I'm trying to explain if needed. Is there a bracket I've
lost or something else I can't find?(the details of restoration that
makes you realize how stupid it can get!)
 
Thanks for the help this year and we hope you have a healthy and
prosperous new year. What a great hobby for those who don't mind
bleeding from sheet metal cuts!
Ed 
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign
59 Traveler

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:08:05 EST
From: JAuman2346@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Airstream Park still operating in Florida

Traveler's Rest is in Dade City Florida. It is now open to other make 
trailers. The address is 29129 Johnston Road, Dade City, Florida. It is 3.5 miles off 
of I 75 at Exit 293 just 30 miles North of Tampa. I believe the price is 
25.00 per night but there is a discount if you belong to WBCCI. If not the seventh 
night is free, I believe. Its a very nice park with a nice swimming pool, 
golf course, and lots of activities. You can also lease a lot for around 1800.00 
per year. If all the lots are not leased you can sublease by the month. 

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:09:27 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office

Ya think ?

Daisy

Tuna wrote:
> hey... do you think maurice tierney is out of his office?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 10:24 PM
> Subject: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
> 
> 
> 
>>I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st.

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:17:06 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Stove Fan Cover Reattachment (boy am I stupid)

Hi Ed,
Upon inspection of mine, the two screws go into the inner skin of the
trailer just outside of the housing for the fan. The bracket that spans the
opening holds the fan and does not have holes in it for the cover. If you
have your fan attached, then you just need to find long enough screws to fit
the cover in place.

Glad to help and hope that someday when I'm stumped, you'll be able to
assist my failing memory.

Happy holidays to you and I hope the new years brings many memorable trips
with loved ones.


Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 



> Hello All and Happy Holidays from the Emericks!
> 
> I want to reinstall the inside fan cover over the stove of my 59
> Traveler's stove vent but can't remember how it attaches ( one of the
> few photos I did not take during my dismantling). This is the the cover
> that is on the inside over the stove, it has two screw holes on the
> cover but I can't see how they attach to the opening. This cover has the
> chain that goes to the outside opens the cover and allows the fan motor
> to start when opened. I can send a photo of the uncovered opening to
> help show what I'm trying to explain if needed. Is there a bracket I've
> lost or something else I can't find?(the details of restoration that
> makes you realize how stupid it can get!)
> 
> Thanks for the help this year and we hope you have a healthy and
> prosperous new year. What a great hobby for those who don't mind
> bleeding from sheet metal cuts!
> Ed 
> WBCCI/VAC 4425
> 68 Sovereign
> 59 Traveler

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:15:19 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Diesel Grinch

Sorry to hear about your diesel problems. However I would not fault all
diesels. I have owned 3 VW diesels and 1 Cummins (Dodge) diesel. I have
never had a fuel/pump/engine problem.

Scott

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Tognetti" <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>

> Great way to be introduced to the diesel world. Expensive lesson.
>
> Happy holidays,
> Chris and the Diesel Grinch

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:29:44 -0500
From: "Jim Stewart" <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Traveler

Ed, is your Traveler the one pictured in the Airstream archives photo web
site? That site says there were only 7 Travelers made in 1958 & 59. That would
make yours one of the rarest of the rare.
Jim

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:34:32 -0800
From: "michelle" <safoocat@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Hobbyists modify GM's OnStar system

Hobbyists modify GM's OnStar system
OWNERS CAN AVOID CARMAKER GIANT'S FEES FOR GPS SERVICE

By Sandeep Junnarkar, New York Times
Posted on Thu, Dec. 25, 2003

Ray and Elna Kawal hit the open road in the fall on an 8,000-mile trip in
their 2002 Chevy Tahoe with General Motors' OnStar navigation system serving
as their North Star. From their home in Sequim, Wash., across to Denver and
Chicago, down to Mexico and then homeward through Arizona and California,
the Kawals followed directions to tourist destinations, hotels and their
friends' homes using OnStar's Global Positioning System navigation -- just
the kind of business GM covets for its subscription service.

But in this case, the automaker didn't make a penny from the 6-week
excursion.

That's because Ray Kawal, a 57-year-old retired engineer, had pried the
OnStar unit from behind the glove compartment and customized it to work with
his laptop and commercially available mapping software. His wife read him
directions right off the laptop that sat between them. The modified unit was
no longer connected to the OnStar network, over which representatives could
have provided the same service for a fee.

"My wife was basically doing a lot of what the OnStar service person would
do," Kawal said. "Many of the things OnStar wants you to pay for, you can
take the unit out and do it yourself."

Other road warriors are quickly discovering this as Web sites and message
boards spring up with step-by-step instructions on removing and
personalizing OnStar's navigational and communications components. While
there are no estimates on how many people have customized the device in
their cars, those who are proficient at adapting the system are helping
friends and family members do so, and some are beginning to parlay their
skills into a weekend business.

Bruce Radloff, OnStar's chief technology officer, pointed out that owners
who tamper with the system risk voiding the warranty on the OnStar unit --
and more critically, the warranty on the entire car. Yet he acknowledges the
temptation.

"From my own perspective -- and GM may feel differently -- once someone buys
the car, I guess their desire to modify it and make changes to it is up to
them," Radloff said. "But why would you take that kind of risk of
invalidating your vehicle warranty when you can go out and buy a GPS
receiver for a couple of hundred bucks these days?"

The question goes to the heart of a principle long embraced by
technologists. Edward W. Felten, a professor of computer science at
Princeton University and a leading voice for this philosophy, defines it on
his Web log as the "freedom to tinker" ethic. This calls for the "freedom to
understand, discuss, repair and modify the technological devices you own."

Tinkerers seek little justification to deconstruct any technology. A common
reason given for fiddling with a device is simply that it's there. These
technologists believe that a bit of tweaking will inevitably unearth some
innovative uses.

It was this curiosity that led Pete Carter, a 28-year-old computer engineer
at an online brokerage in Omaha, to plug a GPS unit he had bought for his
father into his own laptop just to see how it would react. To his surprise,
the laptop picked up the device without requiring any additional software.
He figured that the components used by OnStar's GPS unit were probably the
same and resolved to put his theory to the test. After the challenge of
prying the unit loose from behind the dashboard, Carter faced a more
daunting task. He had to switch the unit's programming language to one
accepted by commercial mapping software and then solder a connection
compatible with his laptop.

Once he succeeding at harnessing the GPS capabilities of his OnStar system,
he created a "Tap Into OnStar" website http://members.cox.net/onstar/ to
help others modify their units.

When a driver requests directions from an OnStar representative, his GPS
data is routed over an analog cellular network to OnStar computers. The
agent then reads back the directions over the same cellular network. The
price for this service, which also includes emergency services and hotel and
restaurant recommendations and reservations, is about $420 annually, or $400
if paid upfront.

For some, the success such hobbyists have had in tapping into their personal
OnStar units evokes the hacker who seeks to break into a networked system
simply out of curiosity. Security researchers have even raised the specter
that as more cars come equipped with OnStar navigation systems, hackers will
be tempted to try to exploit the technology to locate OnStar users.

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7569678.htm

Michelle

Speak kind words and you will
hear kind echoes.

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:40:08 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Hobbyists modify GM's OnStar system

Very interesting, wish I had OnStar so I could become a "tinkerer."  :)

Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 



on 12/26/03 9:34 PM, michelle at safoocat@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:

> Hobbyists modify GM's OnStar system
> OWNERS CAN AVOID CARMAKER GIANT'S FEES FOR GPS SERVICE
> 
> By Sandeep Junnarkar, New York Times
> Posted on Thu, Dec. 25, 2003
> 
> Ray and Elna Kawal hit the open road in the fall on an 8,000-mile trip in
> their 2002 Chevy Tahoe with General Motors' OnStar navigation system serving
> as their North Star. From their home in Sequim, Wash., across to Denver and
> Chicago, down to Mexico and then homeward through Arizona and California,
> the Kawals followed directions to tourist destinations, hotels and their
> friends' homes using OnStar's Global Positioning System navigation -- just
> the kind of business GM covets for its subscription service.
> 
> But in this case, the automaker didn't make a penny from the 6-week
> excursion.
> 
> That's because Ray Kawal, a 57-year-old retired engineer, had pried the
> OnStar unit from behind the glove compartment and customized it to work with
> his laptop and commercially available mapping software. His wife read him
> directions right off the laptop that sat between them. The modified unit was
> no longer connected to the OnStar network, over which representatives could
> have provided the same service for a fee.
> 
> "My wife was basically doing a lot of what the OnStar service person would
> do," Kawal said. "Many of the things OnStar wants you to pay for, you can
> take the unit out and do it yourself."
> 
> Other road warriors are quickly discovering this as Web sites and message
> boards spring up with step-by-step instructions on removing and
> personalizing OnStar's navigational and communications components. While
> there are no estimates on how many people have customized the device in
> their cars, those who are proficient at adapting the system are helping
> friends and family members do so, and some are beginning to parlay their
> skills into a weekend business.
> 
> Bruce Radloff, OnStar's chief technology officer, pointed out that owners
> who tamper with the system risk voiding the warranty on the OnStar unit --
> and more critically, the warranty on the entire car. Yet he acknowledges the
> temptation.
> 
> "From my own perspective -- and GM may feel differently -- once someone buys
> the car, I guess their desire to modify it and make changes to it is up to
> them," Radloff said. "But why would you take that kind of risk of
> invalidating your vehicle warranty when you can go out and buy a GPS
> receiver for a couple of hundred bucks these days?"
> 
> The question goes to the heart of a principle long embraced by
> technologists. Edward W. Felten, a professor of computer science at
> Princeton University and a leading voice for this philosophy, defines it on
> his Web log as the "freedom to tinker" ethic. This calls for the "freedom to
> understand, discuss, repair and modify the technological devices you own."
> 
> Tinkerers seek little justification to deconstruct any technology. A common
> reason given for fiddling with a device is simply that it's there. These
> technologists believe that a bit of tweaking will inevitably unearth some
> innovative uses.
> 
> It was this curiosity that led Pete Carter, a 28-year-old computer engineer
> at an online brokerage in Omaha, to plug a GPS unit he had bought for his
> father into his own laptop just to see how it would react. To his surprise,
> the laptop picked up the device without requiring any additional software.
> He figured that the components used by OnStar's GPS unit were probably the
> same and resolved to put his theory to the test. After the challenge of
> prying the unit loose from behind the dashboard, Carter faced a more
> daunting task. He had to switch the unit's programming language to one
> accepted by commercial mapping software and then solder a connection
> compatible with his laptop.
> 
> Once he succeeding at harnessing the GPS capabilities of his OnStar system,
> he created a "Tap Into OnStar" website http://members.cox.net/onstar/ to
> help others modify their units.
> 
> When a driver requests directions from an OnStar representative, his GPS
> data is routed over an analog cellular network to OnStar computers. The
> agent then reads back the directions over the same cellular network. The
> price for this service, which also includes emergency services and hotel and
> restaurant recommendations and reservations, is about $420 annually, or $400
> if paid upfront.
> 
> For some, the success such hobbyists have had in tapping into their personal
> OnStar units evokes the hacker who seeks to break into a networked system
> simply out of curiosity. Security researchers have even raised the specter
> that as more cars come equipped with OnStar navigation systems, hackers will
> be tempted to try to exploit the technology to locate OnStar users.
> 
> http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/business/7569678.htm
> 
> Michelle
> 
> Speak kind words and you will
> hear kind echoes.

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:37:59 -0500
From: William Jacobs <bjacobs1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires

I bought a smart tire system.  It cost about $230. installed.  That is 
about 1/3 the cost of fixing the damage if you blow a tire.  It tells 
the pressure and temperature of the tire as you travel down the road.  I 
will know the pressure before I get out of the driveway.

25 ft TradeWind in WV
bill

Brian Jenkins wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Regarding the discussion about smart tires, I thought the following 
> website might be of some interest:
> 
> http://www.smartire.com/fl/products/recreational.html

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:54:50 -0800
From: "Tuna" <rctowns@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires

Bill - 
Does your SmarTire system monitor the trailer's tires, as well?

tuna
reno, nv

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From: "William Jacobs" <bjacobs1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires


> I bought a smart tire system.  It cost about $230. installed.  That is 
> about 1/3 the cost of fixing the damage if you blow a tire.  It tells 
> the pressure and temperature of the tire as you travel down the road.  I 
> will know the pressure before I get out of the driveway.
> 
> 25 ft TradeWind in WV
> bill

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 03 21:08:54 -0700
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Wide whitewalls

>There is one supplier that I know of for 15" Porta Walls in
>the 1 3/4" whitewall width.  They are available via the web
>store linked below:
>
>http://www.antiquecarparts.net/parts_are_parts.htm
=============
Thanks Kevin

Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610     VAC
rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
   (polishing report included)  

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:13:02 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires

Go to www.tompatterson.com and do a search on SmarTire in the archives.
Restrict your search to the Vintage Airstream List and you'll find a number
of postings about the system.

I have one and like it.  It's easier if you read the archive search first,
then ask any other questions.

Roger

Roger Hightower
WBCCI #4165,VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:42:45 -0500
From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Stove Fan Cover Reattachment (boy am I stupid)

Hello Brad,
Well, I went out and looked again and I don't find any holes in the
inner skin where metal screws would fit. I have the original screws and
they are not very long, or at least not long enough to go through the
cover into the skin. I saved all the screws I removed and placed them in
plastic bags with notes telling me what they go to, but I don't seem to
have a bracket to go with them. Thanks for the feed back, I'll send a
digital photo to you off list to show what I'm talking about.
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign
59 Travler

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[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Brad Norgaard
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 4:17 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Stove Fan Cover Reattachment (boy am I stupid)


Hi Ed,
Upon inspection of mine, the two screws go into the inner skin of the
trailer just outside of the housing for the fan. The bracket that spans
the opening holds the fan and does not have holes in it for the cover.
If you have your fan attached, then you just need to find long enough
screws to fit the cover in place.

Glad to help and hope that someday when I'm stumped, you'll be able to
assist my failing memory.

Happy holidays to you and I hope the new years brings many memorable
trips with loved ones.


Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 



> Hello All and Happy Holidays from the Emericks!
> 
> I want to reinstall the inside fan cover over the stove of my 59 
> Traveler's stove vent but can't remember how it attaches ( one of the 
> few photos I did not take during my dismantling). This is the the 
> cover that is on the inside over the stove, it has two screw holes on 
> the cover but I can't see how they attach to the opening. This cover 
> has the chain that goes to the outside opens the cover and allows the 
> fan motor to start when opened. I can send a photo of the uncovered 
> opening to help show what I'm trying to explain if needed. Is there a 
> bracket I've lost or something else I can't find?(the details of 
> restoration that makes you realize how stupid it can get!)
> 
> Thanks for the help this year and we hope you have a healthy and 
> prosperous new year. What a great hobby for those who don't mind 
> bleeding from sheet metal cuts! Ed
> WBCCI/VAC 4425
> 68 Sovereign
> 59 Traveler

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:40:18 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office

He must be out. I received about 15-20 of theses out of office replies.
Bobby
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  Ya think ?

  Daisy

  Tuna wrote:
  > hey... do you think maurice tierney is out of his office?
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  >>I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st.

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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 23:03:47 -0500
From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Traveler

Hello Jim,
Nope mine is not the one in the archives, but my 68 Sovereign is! I did
not know that they only made 7 or so, I think I have run into more than
that but I could be wrong. If it is a rare unit all the work I'm putting
into it is going to worth it!
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign
59 Traveler

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Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 5:30 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Traveler


Ed, is your Traveler the one pictured in the Airstream archives photo
web site? That site says there were only 7 Travelers made in 1958 & 59.
That would make yours one of the rarest of the rare. Jim

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